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Even if the QSC K10's headroom is 12 db less than the max SPL stated (and yes I'm counting continuous power and limiters not engaged), its still going to be significantly louder than what I heard from the BagAmp. The superior projection of a line array is not going make up that much of a difference. Gordon |
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Regarding "Line arrays";
True "Line Arrays" are "flown" systems, as you see in this picture; http://www.eaw.com/products/linearra...TL720Array.jpg Line arrays are most commonly "J" configurations, as you can see in the photo. Line array loudspeakers generally have a wide horizontal dispersion, but a very narrow vertical dispersion(often under 20 degrees). "Flying" the array over the crowd, allows the various speakers cabinets to be "aimed" at various sectors of the audience, for best coverage. Those speakers at the bottom of the "J" are aimed at the audience in front, and the "curve", covers those seated progressively further back. Consumer systems with stage-level mini-towers, calling themselves "Line arrays", are being a little "creative" in their marketing in my opinion. Bob |
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I've heard of thermal issues with the early boxes, but in the years that I've been using my pair (purchased used from a rental company) I have had no issues whatsoever. With regard to your assertion that "no one" thinks highly of the Mackies, I'll take that with a grain of salt. I know quite a folks who use them and value them for what they are. I think they hold their own on sound quality, and are more than capable for acoustic acts in small venues. Are there better boxes in the marketplace? No doubt. Can they do a credible job? Absolutely. |
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Tuff to bend a Bose...But should help.
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Don't count on it. Class D amplifiers, light weight enclosures, neodymium magnets, and digital signal processing are here to stay.
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As well as other choices.
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I think the QSC K8 does have the necessary low-frequency response to properly amplify an acoustic guitar without any of its tone enhancements engaged. Having the DEEP switch engaged yielded to an absurdly pronounced low-end to my voice. This might help an electric bass come through, although I don't think I'd want the constant pounding an electric bass would provide going into this speaker or any other brand of non-bass-specific portable PA speaker. My actual choice, if buying into this K series would be the K10 with its 10" woofer, which would be even better at low-end response than the K8. Regards, SpruceTop
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I just heard the K8 at Guitar Center. As SpruceTop stated, I also think it has adequate bass response for an acoustic guitar. I only heard it with music source but I can make an "assumption" based on the music I was hearing that it should handle the low freq of acoustic guitar with no problems. There is a DEEP switch too that gives it extra low end at the expense of headroom. It sounded significantly better than the less expensive Behringers and Harbringer(?) I heard next to it. Unfortunately, he couldn't get the Mackie SRM450 to play because it wasn't hooked up. Oh well. I'm sure the Mackies were in the same ballpark soundwise. Oh yeah, they do get loud too. But I already knew they would have the headroom I needed. Gordon |
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Bob, not to worry. By the time you finally decide on a product, everything will have changed. There will be no more powered speakers or power amps. Speakers will be neither passive or active. The only speakers still in existence will be found in museums. Sound will be transmitted by crystal clear mind link. I/O's will no longer be an issue; you I, and the audience O's. Also, the audience will select their own effects, depending on their preferences.
The good news is that you will have plenty of money when this new technology arrives, rather than going through a constant stream of upgrades like the rest of us and losing a little on each transaction.
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This is working out just like a job I worked on years ago. I worked for a foreman that constantly came back to my partner and I to tell us to do the job a different way after we were done. Believe it or not he came back again with different plans. This was happening everyday. We started calling him Johnny 3 times. After a while, my partner and I started working REALLY slow. The foreman continued doing the same thing. After a while we told him how much money we were saving the company by working so slow. He looked at us confused. We went on to tell him that the slower we worked, the less we had to undo to do over and we saved the time taking everything apart. We were laughing so hard as we explained this that we were falling on the floor. (My partner was a real commedian and usually had me laughing all day) We were falling apart by now. For some reason the foreman wasn't laughing. It just caused us to laugh even more. One of these days I'll make a decision. I am presently putting together a repetoire to play out with. I was primarily an electric player in bands with very little lead vocals so I need time getting my act together. (my last band in my signature) I get to a few Open Mics to test songs and to see the general reaction to my performance. I also get to see others in the same scenerio and some who play out fairly regularly. I think I'm doing a pretty good job and when I see "some" that are playing regularly it causes me to feel pretty confident that I will eventually do pretty well. Also some of the PA gear I've seen and heard is barely adequate. I'm not afraid to spend a few bucks for something worthwhile. I recently injured my shoulder. (Surgery coming up) I do not need to rush into a decision right away. Maybe the scenerio described above will be true and I won't even need speakers by that time. (The slower I work, the more money I save)
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Bob, good luck with the surgery.
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Thank You! I appreciate that!
Just ran across another speaker that I don't believe I ever hear mentioned. The Mackie SRM350v2. Much cheaper than the K10. Seems the 450 is mentione quite a bit but not the 350. Has anyone heard these?
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