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Old 05-15-2019, 07:11 PM
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Cecil;

Like you, I have run through a number of options, including pickups. Emerald has offered a variety of pickups and the Barbera has been my favorite. It is a very clean pickup. I belatedly found out that it is the pickup used by Kirt Sand who makes superb nylon string guitars.

The 7 electric is active with volume and tone controls. I've liked it a lot and will be going for the same on the 10.
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:10 PM
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The order is on. I've appreciated all the advice and comments, they helped make this a better instrument.

What is ordered is as follows: A 10 build with a 2" thick hollow body, Barbera active pickup with volume and tone controls, 20" radius, 1 7/8" nut, 510 tuners, Royal ebony veneer, and a 25.2 (640mm) scale.

The forum has been particular helpful in determining the scale. I went with a 24.75 scale on the 7 electric and like it. But Tom2, Cecil, and Alistair have all advised a longer scale. The 25.2 is longer than the 7 scale, but shorter than a traditional full scale.

The order is in, but there is still time for any last minute suggestions.

Informative and fun stuff.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:12 PM
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Very excited to see this progress to an order! I love the pictures of the narrow body depth that Emerald posted on p4. Is the Barbera pickup an undersaddle or sound board transducer? I've never tried one personally.

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Old 05-16-2019, 02:34 PM
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Very excited to see this progress to an order! I love the pictures of the narrow body depth that Emerald posted on p4. Is the Barbera pickup an undersaddle or sound board transducer? I've never tried one personally.

JR
JR, it's neither. It's basically an in saddle transducer kinda like the LR baggs LB6. It's great for finger pickers but suffers from the same piezo quack that UST's are known for.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:41 PM
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I don't remember recommending a longer scale...?

LOL, Maybe I forgot that I recommended a longer scale? I think that I remember mentioning that Alistair did not want to go any shorter scale than 650 mm (25 1/2") on my X10 nylon string. I wanted 630 mm. We settled on 640 mm.

I hope that this new guitar is THE guitar for you, Evan. You have tenaciously pursued your *ideal* guitar for a long time!
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:04 PM
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Cecil;

Yes you discussed the 640 compromise--and there you were thinking I wasn't listening. And how have you liked the 640?

I've been after two guitars with Emerald--4 acoustic/electrics, and now 2 electric/acoustics. It's been a fun hunt.
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:14 PM
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AFAIK, this will be the first 640mm scale, 1 7/8" nut, 20" radius nylon crossover ever made. I certainly couldn't find one when I last shopped for a standard model crossover.

More comfortable than a 650mm scale and more stable than a 16" radius. Is it 12 frets to the body or 14? Your last one was 14, and so is your X7N. The Rainsong is 12. I prefer the comfort of 12. It makes more difference than a shorter scale.
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:42 AM
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Is it 12 frets to the body or 14? Your last one was 14, and so is your X7N. The Rainsong is 12. I prefer the comfort of 12. It makes more difference than a shorter scale.
That would work with an X20 but with the smaller size of the X10 body the bridge will have to be moved towards the outer rim of the lower bout.

I own an X7 nylon which has its bridge placed that way due to its extended 630 mm scale (regular X7 is 610mm). It is a very quiet and punchy guitar. I still suspect its sound and volume could have been so much better had the bridge been placed at the center of the lower bout.
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:07 AM
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The 7 is 14 frets to the body and I suspect the 10 will be the same. I like the Rainsong Parlor with 12 to the body, but with the Emeralds I've always left the fretting up to Alistair. The 7 surprised me in many ways, particularly its projection. It surprised Alistair, also. I'm hoping to find the same surprise with the 10.
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:03 PM
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That would work with an X20 but with the smaller size of the X10 body the bridge will have to be moved towards the outer rim of the lower bout.

I own an X7 nylon which has its bridge placed that way due to its extended 630 mm scale (regular X7 is 610mm). It is a very quiet and punchy guitar. I still suspect its sound and volume could have been so much better had the bridge been placed at the center of the lower bout.
Yes, the standard bridge position for an X7 is already in the center of the lower bout, and the body length of the X20 is ideal for a 12 fret bridge position (but the overall body size is too big and produces exaggerated bass). The X10 is in between. Its standard bridge position isn't in the center of the lower bout, so there is room for modification. The ultra thin body of this new custom guitar may be inherently bass shy, and might benefit from the stronger bass of a centered bridge.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:42 PM
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On the 2018 (new model) 640 mm scale length X10 nylon string guitar that Alistair built for me the neck intersects the body at the 14th fret on the 6th string sound hole side of the neck, and the neck intersects the body at the 20th fret on the 1st string cutaway side.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:15 PM
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And so, the veneer has be cut. Everything else will be when it will be.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:31 PM
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Eat your hearts out--the 10 will begin production in august. I figure 2 weeks production time, 2 days delivery. It's almost here.
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Old 07-20-2019, 06:18 AM
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Eat your hearts out--the 10 will begin production in august. I figure 2 weeks production time, 2 days delivery. It's almost here.
Whoa! You must have gotten into Todd's sake.
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Old 07-20-2019, 09:58 AM
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And it seems to be working. No worries, anxieties or stress here. Just sitting on the front porch, with a lifetime supply of sake, waiting for the postman to deliver.
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