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Just a shout-out to everyone on this thread, and most certainly Methos with such detail on his VE-8/S1 settings. But thanks to all.
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I have a set of 2 Bose S1 Pros. I use them (either one or both) to augment either my Elite Acoustics D6-8 or Schertler Roy (depending on room size) when I need more dispersion.
It is amazing how well the Bose S1 works for augmenting an acoustic guitar amp. One thing I will say is that the Roy mixer sounds noticeably better than the S1 mixer. Maybe it is the class A preamps. I don't know, but the S1 sounds fantastic when fed from the Roy mixer! Far better than when using the mic and guitar inputs. |
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Hi, everybody hears differently. Not being a native english speaker I always have to refer to the Bose spectral identification listening test to find the proper english word for a given frequency range... https://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php...Identification The male voice lets you hear a 12dB boost for a bunch of frequencies. http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/...2._Track_2.mp3 From what I remember from the Bose S1pro, I think Aaron spotted the right term. Note that the French magazine said that using a SM58 that has a bump around 200 Hz when singing close was not the best mic for the Bose S1 pro. They chose to test the Bose with an EV80PLc to compensate for that and it sounded stellar.
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I donīt think the frequency response curve of the S1 is too bad.
1. Consider the scale of the plot. Itīs going from -10 to +10 db. Other plots show -60 what makes the look of the ups and downs much smaller. 2. The S1 is not a studio monitor and will rarely be used in an acoustically treated environment. If you look at the frequency responses of the rooms, we are playing in live, the deviations are 30 db and more. The 7 db of the S1 will not matter too much. Also frequency responses of picked up acoustic guitars are not flat at all no matter what pickup or microphone you use. 3. I think the valley at around 180 hz is quite clever since this is a frequency I often turn down in most venues. That area creates mud. 4. The bump at 600 hz seems to be too much but maybe the problem is more the balance of frequencies above and below that area too much on the low side or too less on the higher side of 600 hz that would compensate the bump. AND: The plots probably show the responses of the mounted on a stand position. 600 Hz means a wavelength of around 0,56 meters. You can now play with the speaker stand height to cancel the 600 hz bump (use the floor or side wall reflexions). To me it looks that this is Boses idea when they created this bump. It would be interesting to see a frequency plot of the S1 in a tilt back position that sounds much more balanced to me in most cases. 5. A -3 db point at 60 hz is quite impressing for such a small speaker 6. A parametric EQ in the chain is ALWAYS a very good idea since there is always a need to adapt to different rooms. All of this might explain why some of us hear a problem with the S1 and some donīt. Itīs so much depending on the rooms we are in, the input signals and the placement of the speaker. Of course a speaker with a flat responce together with a good EQ and a good engineer is alway preferably. But you donīt get all of this in that small package (the engineer alone would be a problem here) and that price. Also itīs not easy to setup a PA speaker in a certain room correctly. |
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I put my S1 guitar input on the Microphone tone match and without changing anything else, I think I found the plugged in sound I've had - ever! With the tone match set to off there was definitely something plastic about the sound in the 300-700hz range, I was about to buy a parametric EQ.
J45 -> M80 (pole pieces adjusted, passive mode) -> Align EQ -> S1 Pro Sounds and responds better than I remember my 000-15 with K&K -> red eye -> mxr 6 band -> wampler ego compressor -> AER 60/3. |
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"I put my S1 guitar input on the Microphone tone match and without changing anything else, I think I found the plugged in sound I've had - ever!"
That's because it's making your pickup match the tone of a Microphone. They be geniuses at Bose. |