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09-09-2013, 03:06 PM
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I like the sound of a fat single coil pickup, P-90 type. that is the sound of rock and roll.
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09-09-2013, 04:31 PM
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09-23-2013, 06:18 PM
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 seriously, i don't agree with the notion that you have to play an expensive archtop to appear in a jazz club or be a guitar major somewhere. I 've seen people with all sorts of guitars in both occasions.. many famous players do have fabulous archtops from well known manufacturers, but have problems using them live due to feedback. An iconic instrument isn't always the best choice for live work / touring, for many reasons. For me, being professional means having the experience to know what your needs are. Trying out things, so you know what suits your style and can give you the sound and uses you re looking for. There's not an easy shortcut around it, cause different musical situations (or other things) will change your needs from an instrument over time. But for an archtop, i 'd say definitely some feedback control (there are a number of ways to do that), good electronics, woods and size according to taste and music you will play with it.. Now i good archtop will be costly. Best choice to buy used, or have a not so well known but good luthier built you something.. i don't think budget offerings from companies can really compete.. regarding a $$ estimate, i 'd say around 3-4 k$ for a used archtop. And smaller bodies tend to be almost the rule nowdays if you plan to use the guitar live.. Last edited by Alter; 09-23-2013 at 06:24 PM.
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10-22-2013, 05:53 AM
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Hi folks, I'm new to the forum so I'll keep it short... As an archtop builder I would suggest you rethink your approach on price point and focus on how you would use the instrument. Several honest questions and answers; skill level aside, do you play and tour professionally, do you play amplified with pickups, acoustically miked, with a band or solo, fingerstyle or shred, how do you want the instrument to look and feel, (eye candy), the prestige factor, vintage boutique or rack, and how much money can you or can't you spend. Everyone above has given good answers, if you are looking to buy it's time for some "homework"... HaHa that wasn't short was it ;-) Good luck and have fun, archtops can be very versatile. dkw
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10-22-2013, 10:28 AM
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I own a vintage L-5C that I paid over $7000 for, and an Ibanez AF-155 that cost me $550. Both are totally worthy of any gig or playing context I might ever participate in.
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10-23-2013, 08:45 AM
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"pnb" if I may? What is the reason you are trying to determine what constitutes a professional level guitar? As you can see this can become a hornets nest of opinion and subjectivity. Are you curious, looking to buy/upgrade, making a career move? Your motivation is as important to the guitar you end up with as all the advice here. What are you trying to resolve? (and I apologize if it's in the thread somewhere, it doesn't seem clear to me.)
thanks, dkw
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10-23-2013, 09:35 AM
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answer to dkwvt
This is actually sort of a complicated question with a very long answer. I am a college student. Right now, I am an English Literature major; actually, I am taking a semester off, but I am working towards an English lit degree. I would like to work towards a music degree. I play, but my audition for the classical guitar performance track did not go well. I reassessed my musical abilities and my shortcomings with my guitar teacher (unrelated to my college) and we agreed that I would be better fit in the jazz performance and jazz theory wing of the music program. I am taking a semester off to work on my music skills.
I play some jazz now, and I improvise extensively with my band. My teacher and I are working on my rhythm playing and my phrasing. Right now, I play a Martin 000-28VS. I love the guitar, but it isn't quite right for where I want to go. I am looking for a guitar that I can play in a variety of settings and that will carry me through the next 2-3 years of my education. Like I said, I can play, but I am still very much a student. Most of the guitar performance majors in the jazz program have $5-$10K guitars. My original question centered around trying to figure out what sort of guitar I should look at so that I can "fit in" when I audition again in Feb. It may not be the most noble of goals, but it is important to me. If I had world class chops, I could show up at my audition with anything and blow like crazy. I am not that good, so I want to try to look the part to put a good image of myself in the minds of the panel. It is the same reason I am going to wear a suit. If I played like Julian Lage, I could wear jeans and a T-shirt. I do not play like Julian Lage. Thank you for reading; I hope that helps.
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10-23-2013, 11:49 AM
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It seems like you want a Porsche because all the other kids have Porsches. I wholeheartedly disagree with that reasoning. It seems to me that what you are lacking is confidence, and you are trying to make up for that by buying expensive gear. Buying something expensive is not going to solve your problems, the best musicians I personally know have scuffed up inexpensive laminate guitars, their music ability is what gets them gigs, not the appearance of their instruments.
My advise would be to get something that feels good to play, it may not look the part, but what matters most is that the audience can feel what you are playing, and know that an audience will not critique you like a panel of judges. What guitar do you have at the moment?
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10-23-2013, 02:03 PM
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My acoustic rig is a Martin 000-28VS. In the past, I have had acoustics with electronics, I just don't have an acoustic with electronics right now. When I play acoustic, a mic has been sufficient. I use this (frequently) to play my hodgepodge mixture of acoustic blues, swing, rock and bluegrass. I also have a classical. Yes. I am self-conscious about my playing. I am stepping pretty far out of my comfort zone to try to expand my musical abilities. To use your car analogy, of course I want a Porsche. I have never met a musician who is happy with his/her gear. What I was trying to ask is, in a race of Porsches, 1) can a Subaru Impreza WRX Sti keep up and/or 2) Is there something like a Lotus Exige out there?
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10-23-2013, 02:07 PM
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10-23-2013, 08:03 PM
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There are lots of great laminate archtops out there off the rack and from some of the name boutique builders as well. These are not your old man's plywood soundboards... You want f holes to look the part, other than that there are lots of acceptable setups, you're driving that bus. Take a little time, play some different guitars, check out the videos and start to zero in on a look and a sound that suits you. I'm jealous, you are making choices about music and instruments that some people don't get in their whole life. Enjoy it while it's all in front of you! Good Luck.
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10-24-2013, 08:36 AM
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I would agree with a used gibson epiphone heritage etc. I would also consider using your electric or even acoustic in front of the jazz panel. I am learning jazz as well and I think solid body electrics can get you pretty far, and are much easier to play... Also playing strats into fender tube amps with compression delay fuzz etc but mostly clean. My jazz instructor is a professional and plays jazz on solid bodies, that's all he owns and most of them are worth less than your tele...
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