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Old 02-27-2021, 04:34 PM
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I have a toy (hobby) web page...

I added some guitar content today... a story about my 57
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https://hubcapsc.com/country_western

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Cool Story. I owned a 1956 SJ for a number of years. Not sure though why the comment the C &W was not considered important enough at the time to have a serial number. No Southerner Jumbo, SJN or C&W built before 1961 had a serial number. The FON on the neck block was it.
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Cool Story. I owned a 1956 SJ for a number of years. Not sure though why the comment the C &W was not considered important enough at the time to have a serial number. No Southerner Jumbo, SJN or C&W built before 1961 had a serial number. The FON on the neck block was it.
The "information" web page I referenced sez:

Gibson Hollowbody instruments 1947 to 1961:

"Artist" serial numbers used on mid to upper line guitars. No serial number used on lower line instruments (date by Factory Order Number). Instruments with an "Artist" serial number should also have a Factory Order Number by which a date can be cross-referenced.


http://www.guitarhq.com/gibson.html#serial

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The "information" web page I referenced sez:

Gibson Hollowbody instruments 1947 to 1961:

"Artist" serial numbers used on mid to upper line guitars. No serial number used on lower line instruments (date by Factory Order Number). Instruments with an "Artist" serial number should also have a Factory Order Number by which a date can be cross-referenced.


http://www.guitarhq.com/gibson.html#serial

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When it comes to Gibsons there tends to be a lot of confusion regarding factory order numbers and serial numbers. As staring point, every Gibson made from 1902 to 1961 had an FON whether it appears on the guitar or not. These were assigned early on to batches of up to maybe 40 guitars as a means of tracking production and controlling inventory. The digits following the FON were the number of the guitar in that production run. Serial numbers unlike FONs were intended to uniquely identify an instrument. Gibsons could have both.

No argument that serial numbers were only found on higher end Gibsons. This is probably because they were linked to shipping and warranty issues. When you get into the 1940s virtually no flattops were assigned serial numbers. Even the Southerner Jumbo which was Gibson's top of the line flattop during WWII and which sold for $112 right after the War did not have one. During the 1950s the only two flattops I can think of to have serial numbers would have been the J200 and J185. If I recall correctly, the Hummingbird had an "A" prefix serial number when it first came out in 1960. My wife owns a 1960 J200 which has both an FON with the "R" prefix on the neck block and an orange label with a serial number with the "A" prefix.

But in terms of slope shoulder jumbos the year yours was made the SJN Country & Western was exceeded in price only by the P-90 fired J160E.
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That's a nice little love song to your new guitar!

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While 1950s Gibsons were heavier built than those guitar which came before, I find there is a magic to them. And I am a big fan of the bracing they went to in 1955.
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I feel the same joy you express- I also have a 1957 Country Western numbered U-9503 4. I have owned it for 4 years, and it is a pleasure to play.
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I feel the same joy you express- I also have a 1957 Country Western numbered U-9503 4. I have owned it for 4 years, and it is a pleasure to play.
Mine's kinda... just yellow. Can you see the wood grain lines in your top?
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here are better pictures than I can take https://guitars.com/inventory/ag6471...ountry-western
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here are better pictures than I can take https://guitars.com/inventory/ag6471...ountry-western
That's one's pretty... you can see through the finish more than on mine.
Too bad about that crack... they probably fixed it really well, though...



I wonder if there's something about the finish they used that makes it
seem so... opaque?

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typical pickguard crack no biggie- opaque quality most likely due to aging of finish
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In the 1950s Gibson glued the pickguards directly to the wood rather than on top of the finish which as noted did result in cracks. You run into the same thing with Guilds.
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Mine's kinda... just yellow. Can you see the wood grain lines in your top?
Got a picture?



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Looks great to me.
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I have a 59 CW. I am putting off a reset.
It has a wild tonal palette, excellent for lead lines.
Sounds old and cuts thru loudly.

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