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Old 04-08-2024, 08:41 PM
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Looking to replace my Grover tuners on my Guild dv52
How do I find out which model number to use?
I have gold ones right now now I’m there
But I would like silver replacements
The old ones aren’t holding very well anymore
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Old 04-09-2024, 03:18 AM
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Looking to replace my Grover tuners on my Guild dv52
How do I find out which model number to use?
I have gold ones right now now I’m there
But I would like silver replacements
The old ones aren’t holding very well anymore
Thank you in advance
Dave,
I doubt that they're slipping, but if you want chrome/silver ones they're just Grover Rotomatics.

You can try snugging the button screw, and also make sure that the 'ferrule' fittings in the front of the headstock are not loose. It's always best to take the tension off the string first, then put a wrench on the hex nut, and gently give it a turn. If it's already snug, leave it alone.

If you really want another set of the same in chrome/silver, here's a perfect used set.....provided you have the same ones. You never showed a picture of what's on it now, so I just Googled your Guild model, and most have these:
https://reverb.com/item/80669596-gro...UaApltEALw_wcB

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Old 04-09-2024, 09:43 AM
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Thank you for your reply
This guitar I bought used recently
And it seems to go out of tune a lot more than my old D2 five
Also, there is some gunk that I see can’t seem to clean off the tuners
I figured it would be a inexpensive replacement
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Old 04-09-2024, 10:01 AM
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Tuners don't slip, the physics of the gearing doesn't allow it. 'Going out of tune' is more a feature of the instrument's wood expanding and contracting like some kind of bellows in response to changes in humidity and temperature. Some instruments are more responsive to their environment than others. I think swapping tuners won't have any effect on that, but keeping the instrument in a more-or-less stable environment will help.

But a guitar needs tuning every time it gets picked up....
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Old 04-09-2024, 10:46 AM
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I have a variety of older guitars with rotomatics. I have never had one go "bad". I have had them get rough or stiff. In fact the last time was a Guild F47.

You just:

1. Take them off.

2. Take them apart. Be very careful to not lose those washers on the tuning knob, and take note of the "order".

3. Clean with naptha.

4. Lube the worm with grease (I use white lithium, but anything fairly thick would do.

5. Put them back together. Tighten the knob screw just so it is snug and provides some resistance. That is what that compression washer is for.
Be sure to clean off any excess grease.

6. Put them back on the guitar. You way want to put a dab of Titebond on the mounting screws.

7. Work the grease in good with an electric winder.

Good to go for another twenty years.

A link to more on frets.com

http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Musi...geartune1.html

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Old 04-09-2024, 11:02 AM
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Ah. 'take them apart'. I'd love an explanation as to how to get the end cap off. I've not seen a gap where I could insert an awl and pry. Thanks!
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Old 04-09-2024, 02:06 PM
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As long as you can get the worm gear out, you can usually clean them up pretty good. Obviously if you can't clean/lube them, you will need a plan "B" ...
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Old 04-10-2024, 04:14 PM
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Wow, thank you so much for that idea!
I never thought about taking them apart
I tried to lube them with the little WD-40 on the outside
And it seem to help a bit
But a couple of them are still kind of stiff
I believe I’ll try that. Thank you again.
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Old 04-10-2024, 04:21 PM
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Save yourself the work, replace them with Gotoh's. Much lighter and smoother.
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