000-28 but different - Page 2

Wrighty · #16 07-30-2019, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jklotz

I'm considering a guitar dedicated to fingerstyle. Requirements would be 1 3/4" nut, decent string spacing at the bridge, all solid wood and short scale. Preferable a 000 or possibly a 00 sized body. I don't want to limit it to rosewood or mahogany b & s, so anything is fair game (I've played some guitars that had some tone woods I'd never though fit me, but were great and some that were "my spec" that were completely underwhelming, so I'll leave my preconceived notions at the door).

I played a few new 000-28's that I liked, but I just can't get along with that pencil thin neck. The 000-28ec was a better fit, but a) I'm not Eric Clapton, so I'd prefer not to have his (or anybody's) signature on the fb and b) the $3700 price tag is a little rich for my blood.

That being said, I'm willing to part with $2 - $3K.

Any suggestions?

I would recommend you have a look at one of the Furch OM's - what was Millenium but now colour series. I have two of these and also a G size Furch and they are all fantastic fingerstyle guitars.

jklotz · #17 07-30-2019, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleJesse

Your Eastman doesn't fill that role for you? I was just curious since I just picked up an e20om-tc and it's plenty loud when I pick, albeit with a thumbpick and fingers.

Good point. Yes, I am really enjoying my little eOM-20. It's a great little guitar! The issue I have with it for the more intricate fingerstyle pieces is the nut width and string spacing. The specs say 1 3/4" but it feels way tighter than that. I've been playing it to work up some pieces and I can make it work, but then I play a guitar with the wider spacing and all the sudden things get easier. Difficult to explain, but that's what led me to my search.

jklotz · #18 07-30-2019, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Wrighty

I would recommend you have a look at one of the Furch OM's - what was Millenium but now colour series. I have two of these and also a G size Furch and they are all fantastic fingerstyle guitars.

I am interested in Furch for sure. Their model lineup is confusing to me. Maybe I'm just dense? Can you tell me which of them has short scale?

kiva238 · #19 07-30-2019, 07:26 AM

Martin 000-18GE is what you seek!

Find a used one to fit the budget.

SKYHIGH · #20 07-30-2019, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jklotz

I'm considering a guitar dedicated to fingerstyle. Requirements would be 1 3/4" nut, decent string spacing at the bridge, all solid wood and short scale. Preferable a 000 or possibly a 00 sized body. I don't want to limit it to rosewood or mahogany b & s, so anything is fair game (I've played some guitars that had some tone woods I'd never though fit me, but were great and some that were "my spec" that were completely underwhelming, so I'll leave my preconceived notions at the door).

I played a few new 000-28's that I liked, but I just can't get along with that pencil thin neck. The 000-28ec was a better fit, but a) I'm not Eric Clapton, so I'd prefer not to have his (or anybody's) signature on the fb and b) the $3700 price tag is a little rich for my blood.

That being said, I'm willing to part with $2 - $3K.

Any suggestions?

You just described Eastman E20OM/E10OM. Then I saw one in your sig...
Does E20OM not satisfy for what you described?

stevecuss · #21 07-30-2019, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jklotz

I'm considering a guitar dedicated to fingerstyle. Requirements would be 1 3/4" nut, decent string spacing at the bridge, all solid wood and short scale. Preferable a 000 or possibly a 00 sized body. I don't want to limit it to rosewood or mahogany b & s, so anything is fair game (I've played some guitars that had some tone woods I'd never though fit me, but were great and some that were "my spec" that were completely underwhelming, so I'll leave my preconceived notions at the door).

I played a few new 000-28's that I liked, but I just can't get along with that pencil thin neck. The 000-28ec was a better fit, but a) I'm not Eric Clapton, so I'd prefer not to have his (or anybody's) signature on the fb and b) the $3700 price tag is a little rich for my blood.

That being said, I'm willing to part with $2 - $3K.

Any suggestions?

Unusual tone woods aside, what you're describing above is the reimagined 000-18. New taper neck, scalloped bracing, short scale and killer dry tone.

The GE or Signature variants would suffice too. I've always coveted the Laurence Juber Sig 000/OM Martin.

jazzguy · #22 07-30-2019, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevien

Taylors usually come with 2 3/16" string spacing at bridge, a little narrow for fingerstyle.
Steve

I beg to differ. Countless people play finger style on the standard Taylor nut width. Of course, YMMV.
https://youtu.be/hIydLDugn-0

Shades of Blue · #23 07-30-2019, 09:06 AM

If you are open to a slightly larger body, but comfortable, my recommendation would be that you try out one of the new Grand Pacifics from Taylor. They are not as deep as a Dread, but sound wonderful and are comfortable.

backdoc · #24 07-30-2019, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleJesse

Your Eastman doesn't fill that role for you? I was just curious since I just picked up an e20om-tc and it's plenty loud when I pick, albeit with a thumbpick and fingers.

I agree. I wouldn’t trade The E20OM that I have for a 000-28 EC or otherwise. Mine did sound and play crappy when I got it, but a good setup with a new saddle by a great tech turned it into my #1.

jklotz · #25 07-30-2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by backdoc

I agree. I wouldn’t trade The E20OM that I have for a 000-28 EC or otherwise. Mine did sound and play crappy when I got it, but a good setup with a new saddle by a great tech turned it into my #1.

I posted this in #17, but again:

Good point. Yes, I am really enjoying my little eOM-20. It's a great little guitar! The issue I have with it for the more intricate fingerstyle pieces is the nut width and string spacing. The specs say 1 3/4" but it feels way tighter than that. I've been playing it to work up some pieces and I can make it work, but then I play a guitar with the wider spacing and all the sudden things get easier. Difficult to explain, but that's what led me to my search.

gfirob · #26 07-30-2019, 10:06 AM

https://jakewildwood.blogspot.com/p/...657/category=0

jklotz · #27 07-30-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gfirob

https://jakewildwood.blogspot.com/p/...657/category=0

That's really nice, but I could get a new one for a little less from the forum sponsors. I think some folks have unrealistic expectations for used guitars' value.

jnf91 · #28 07-30-2019, 10:30 AM

Maybe custom order a 000-28 with the neck you want? I suspect you could still get in under 3k.

gmel555 · #29 07-30-2019, 10:33 AM

In that price range I think you could do a custom 000-15m (with or without slothead), 12 fret, short scale, all mahogany. The custom would be whatever neck profile you prefer. You could also specify "Genuine Mahogany" which in Martin-speak is Honduran Mahogany, Swietenia macrophylla. Might have money left over to add a different fretboard inlay, gloss finish, or binding, etc. depending on whether you want any of those.

UncleJesse · #30 07-30-2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by backdoc

I agree. I wouldn’t trade The E20OM that I have for a 000-28 EC or otherwise. Mine did sound and play crappy when I got it, but a good setup with a new saddle by a great tech turned it into my #1.

What kind of saddle did you change to?