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01-07-2019, 12:19 PM
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Just thought of this......
When people start a statement with "no offense, but....." You cannot start a statement like that without guaranteeing offense. It's basically saying "I know this is offensive but I am going to say it anyway." It's like interrupting a conversation by saying "not to interrupt, but...."
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01-07-2019, 12:57 PM
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01-07-2019, 01:19 PM
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The next time you hear the word " but " used you're going to apply this.
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01-11-2019, 03:48 PM
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01-11-2019, 04:05 PM
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Here in the Deep South many women preface their thinly (or not so thinly) veiled insults with, "Bless her heart but (fill in the blank)." They are not blessing anybody. They just don't want to appear as mean and catty as they really feel.
P.S. It doesn't work. It just makes them appear hypocritical as well as catty and mean.
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01-11-2019, 06:22 PM
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I've never heard anyone explain "Bless your heart" in that manner... I've heard my Grandma (one of the sweetest ladies that ever drew breath) and many other women use "Well, Bless your heart" my whole life... In every circumstance, they were all being polite, instead of being brutally honest and telling the other person straight up how impolite, petty or foolish they were behaving... It's well accepted and understood around here that the recipient of said "Bless your heart" needs to get their cranium out of their posterior... Maybe the intent, use and understanding is a regional thing...
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01-11-2019, 06:27 PM
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....I know this is more of a pet peeve type of issue...BUT!.....terms like “no offense “...”with all due respect”...and the like are not always precursors to negative, condescending, mean-spirited, or otherwise inappropriate comments....sometimes it’s just a respectful way to disagree or add to the conversation...nothing more....of course sometimes it does follow that someone makes a knucklehead contribution...just not always...usually not...better I think to take each persons take as a whole rather than disregard it for a single aspect...
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01-11-2019, 06:36 PM
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What Patrick said.
Maybe I will start a poll on the correct and least offensive preliminary to use when you want to respectfully disagree with something someone said. So far I have IMHO Wth all due respect Bless your heart YMMV I must respectfully disagree I believe that is not entirely correct Jane, you ignorant... (old cultural reference there. Just funnin' ya)
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01-11-2019, 07:38 PM
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I just state my disagreement politely without such precursors.
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01-11-2019, 09:01 PM
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When disagreeing with someone it is usually not a good idea to start a sentence with a negative phrase such as "no …". This implies that you think the other person is wrong and you think you know better.
It’s better to start an opposing sentence with positive words such as, "Yes, but did you know …?" or "Yes, but have you considered …?", or "OK, but I heard …" or "Oh really, I heard …", etc.
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01-12-2019, 08:40 AM
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01-12-2019, 11:17 AM
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And as I said, I've never heard that old saying used with a mean spirited spin like that...we don't do it that way around these parts... 
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01-12-2019, 11:27 AM
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I may be in the minority here, but personally, give me a little honest vitriol, hostility, even open insults and condescension any day over passive-aggressive smarminess (e.g., thinly veiled replies to a comment that seem to be addressed to someone else; brittle, freezing politeness, etc).
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01-12-2019, 12:04 PM
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...a fair point of view but I think it’s way more important to consider what comes after the preface...I personally just blurt out my thoughts without the pleasantries while still trying not to offend...that said...vitriol,hostility,condescension are a turn off man....and oftentimes the person offering up their honest vitriol on an Internet forum would never do so in a face to face exchange...kinda negates the honesty part... Last edited by J Patrick; 01-12-2019 at 12:10 PM.
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01-12-2019, 12:28 PM
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I'm sorry but vitriol does not equate with honesty. One can be honest without being mean or insulting. Some people use "just being honest" as an excuse to leave their manners at the door.
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