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Ibanez Artcore AS7312 Semihollow Guitar Trans Cherry Red
I own one of these Ibanez 12 strings, it's a beautiful guitar !!! I am about to switch the string orientation, and nut, over to the Richenbacher string style..........the Rick is strung with the heavy string (of the set of 2) first, and the octave next to it. That's what gives the Rick 12's their extreme jangle sound. It's an experiment to see if I can achieve that sound by doing a kind of "reverse set up" on the strings if you get my drift, i will keep you all in the loop as to how it goes !!! I figure I have to buy a nut for a Rick 12 to have the strings really seated properly, and do the relief, and radius at the bridge, you know, the whole set up so it works right !!! Any of you luthiers or setup guys have any input, it would be interesting and helpful to me. thanks, and I'll let you know how it goes !!!
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TMK the Rick neck is a good deal narrower than the Ibanez (nice guitar BTW - I've played a couple. my wife is a 12-string player in need of an electric, and the AS7312 and Gretsch 5422-12 are on my short list) as is the string spacing, so if you're looking for a quick fix this isn't it; that said, since you seem to have the requisite skills you'd probably be better off either [1] using the old nut as a template and making one of your own from a bone blank, or [2] buying a pre-made 12-string nut and performing the necessary modifications (re-slotting, end trimming, etc.), which should also buy you some extra string spacing if that's your preference...
Good luck - let us know how it turns out...
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ordered the nut ...
So I took the measurements of the nut, and ordered 2 blanks from Graphtech today. I was very surprised the neck at the nut is only 1 & 11/16" !!! I thought for sure it was 1.75"......... anyway my project has begun! this ought to be interesting !!!
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Looking forward to not only how things went technically to setup but how the change in tone is. Good luck!
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I also ordered a set of nut saws, 3 double edged stainless steel for $ 29.00 from Amazon, Ill be able to cut the new tusq blanks when they arrive, one an original copy of the Ibanez to replace the original plastic one I will be removing, and one for the experimental "Rick style" replacement. It's nice to have the original for measurements of the height of the cut at the first fret so the action will be the same as the original, and also help with the string spacements for playability. I've got spacing info from stewmac that I can refer to when I'm calculating the spacing !!! It's exciting to anticipate a succesfull result !
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Interesting ....Post some photos when you get a chance please
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I have a Ricky 660-12, BTW...wonderful to play, and the ONLY Rick I can even get my fingers into. This is the same guitar as the Tom Petty Signature 12-string.
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Last edited by Graham H; 03-13-2019 at 03:37 PM. |
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Very interesting project. Looking forward to the results.
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I agree that it the "lower first" strike does seem to make a difference. On my electric 12-string I'll just upstroke to get the "Rick Effect".
The other biggie for classic Byrds' style is lots of compression. The Janglebox stompbox compressor is an easy way to get that sound.
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