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Old 12-03-2009, 03:50 PM
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Default how much slack do you leave to wind around when you string your guitar?

is there a proper length you need to follow when are determining the slack/excess string to wind around the pegs? i just eyeball it the distance from one peg to another. and do the treble strings need a little bit more slack?
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I do it like this: http://www.taylorguitars.com/global/...l_Restring.pdf

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Ideally, I think, the winding should go down to the bottom of the binding post so as to maximize the break angle at the nut. I pretty much give the same amount as you but give about half again for the trebles as they are more prone to slipping being smooth.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:00 PM
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Pull the string you are winding with no slack to the next post up. Cut it there it will give you 3 wraps. They have a great tutorial on the Taylor guitar website on changing strings
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Mainly I pull the string straight through the hole in the post and pull it taunt, then back off the distance from the nut to the first fret...the use the locking tie method and then start winding. I've never had any slippage or a string coming un-strung and I also don't have a ton of windings around the post.
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+1 on Taylor's method.

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Next time I restring I'll try the Taylor method to test it out.
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I use about 3 fingers at first fret and a loop around the string method... works well, fast and no slips.
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+1 on Taylor's method.

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Here is a video example of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKwas...ayer_embedded#

The only difference in my practice is I don't cut the strings until the guitar is tuned to pitch. I have cut a few round core strings early only to find that it deadened them once they were tuned.
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+3 on the Taylor method. Simple. Quick. Yeah.
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Ideally, I think, the winding should go down to the bottom of the binding post so as to maximize the break angle at the nut. I pretty much give the same amount as you but give about half again for the trebles as they are more prone to slipping being smooth.
wow not good. way too much. too many windings re worse than not enough. i do the taylor way. 1 post past for the low strings. 1.5 past the post for the high strings
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Here is a video example of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKwas...ayer_embedded#

The only difference in my practice is I don't cut the strings until the guitar is tuned to pitch. I have cut a few round core strings early only to find that it deadened them once they were tuned.
I want his electric string winder!
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Ernie Ball makes one for $20 or you can buy the adapter for $1 at almost any music store and a Black & Decker utility cordless for about $8 at Home Depot (this is what they have in the video).

I went with the latter and saved $10.

Pretty cool and makes life easy.
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is there a proper length you need to follow when are determining the slack/excess string to wind around the pegs? i just eyeball it the distance from one peg to another. and do the treble strings need a little bit more slack?
Hi c_o…
Because I do a lot of alternate and drop tunings mixed with standard tuning on the same instruments, I leave 1 wrap above, and 3 windings below the wound strings, and 1 above and 5-7 winds below on the shaft of plain strings.

This is due to a David Wilcox comment that this will prevent breakage when tuning up and down (and he is the king of retuning).

Before, when I did 1 above and 2 below on all 6 strings, I'd occasionally lose a 2nd or 3rd string to retunings while bringing them back to pitch. In the past 4 years, since doing the extra winding, not one string has snapped despite the tortures I perform on them.

For my guitars it amounts to 2 frets worth of slack (at 4th fret) on the 6th, 2.5 frets on the 5th, 3 frets on the 4th and 3rd, and 3 frets on the 2nd and 3.5 on the first.

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I play mostly in standard tuning. I usually place four fingers under the string at the 12th fret before I "kink" the string around the tuner.
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