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Your are talking about an Apollo X16 correct ? Does not seem like the X 16 has ADAT out, so I am not clear on how you would use it as your second device ? For me I thought if I needed more channels I would probably go with the Audient ASP880 8-channel Microphone Preamp @$1200 Or If I was biding time until Avid comes out with something the Focusrite Clarett OctoPre @ $750
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Good to know.
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I'll have to think on what I'd want to do about the extra channels. I don't like the idea of spending that much on a temporary solution. I wonder if AVID might have something for this summer's NAMM.
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I'm going to list my Apollo X16 for sale today and put the proceeds towards a Carbon. I'll have to pick up something to get the other 8 channels at some point. I thought I might grab a Rosetta 800 on the cheap but for some reason the price of those has gone up quite a bit. I may just wait it out and see if AVID releases an expansion at NAMM this summer ...or maybe by then the price of used Rosettas comes back down to Earth.
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http://duc.avid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=161
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I was also looking for other options for additional channels. Can you see any reason this unit wouldn't work? I wish it had DB25 connectors on the back but that's the trade off to have 16 channels available rather than 8. I'll still wait until at least July to see if AVID comes out with something. Maybe by summer, these will show up used rather than new. Motu 16A
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Also I just saw this Midas for $500 off at Sweetwater $999 might be a good deal (probably coming out with anew unit at Namm )? https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...B&gclsrc=aw.ds Midas website https://www.midasconsoles.com/produc...odelCode=P0AJI
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I made a similar post in the AVID Pro Tools Users group on Facebook. There's a manager from AVID who posts there so many I can get some more specific information from him. The more I think about this, the more I'm leaning towards wanting the option to go beyond 16 line-ins. On paper, it looks like that's possible. It would limit me to 44.1 or 48, but I'm fine with that. I'd like to get a plan figured out before the X16 sells so I know what I'm buying on the other side of the sale. I'm trying to avoid both being disappointed by thinking I can get more channels than I is possible and by buying something that winds up being incompatible for some reason.
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I think I just saw your thread over on the DUC. I think the last answer from dominicperry is spot on Also if you go to this thread http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=414703and quote and then ask Kyle Splittgerber (head design engineer for Carbon ) directly,,, he is pretty good about answering although sometimes take a few days.
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Does that mean I'm trading UA Console for a similar headache or is he simply saying it's not a plug-n-play scenario and some settings, like the clock for example, have to be adjusted. Perhaps the simplest solution is to give up the idea of expanding an extra 16 channels. I'm starting to lean in that direction now. The only downside is that I'd have less room to create inserts for future outboard purchases and will have to physically patch them when I want to use them. But it opens the door to more and less complicated options and I think keeping it simple might be the right direction for me. EDIT:... just got this response so now I'm back to thinking the MOTU is the way to go. "I run the 16A with Carbon. The +24dBu input max is a perfect match to Carbon, the +20dBu output max is 4dBu lower on the MOTU, but if I'm running that hot on an output it's most likely 2-bus via the Carbon's monitor out. If I'm using any 'interface pres' they'll be the Carbon's, they're very good, I want pure conversion on the expander. The MOTU can be set as a dedicated analog-to-adat and adat-to-analog box, I just save one set-up for routing up to 48k, another for up to 96k and recall them via web browser. The 16A conversion is the best you'll find anywhere near that price point and it makes for a very capable 2U, 24 in/32 out Pro Tools rack. "
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The Midas is only an 8 channel extender box (not a full blown interface), It has 8 e XLR only (not combi) inputs and is simply a Mic pre with converters Either way it look promising
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BTW, want to buy an X16? I'm not too worried. It will go eventually. I've already had offers, just none high enough for me to jump. Although if they had come through outside of Reverb, I'd have accepted one of them. Reverb takes too big a chunk though.
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I was reading the Motu info and it claims up to 48 channels expansion via the AVB with other Motu stuff so that could indeed be a future benefit. Plus if you ever decided you needed two systems for two rooms or something it could work for that as well
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The Demeter has an amazing ability to make any FET mic sound like something much better than what it is. It's not my favorite pre for pairing with a tube mic but for any FET, it's the first pre I reach for. Yeah, that's what I figure. None of know what direction AVID is going to go in with this system. I figure having the AVB on the MOTU at least leaves open the possibility of it being useful. My first priority though is the conversion and the channel count. I'm feeling kind of lucky that the 16A even exists. I searched as best I could but it's hard to isolate what I need in a search. In that AVID thread, someone was calling what i need an "expander" but I've never heard that term. I suppose in it's most basic form, it's a preamp with ADAT but searching preamps leaves out the interfaces that could play the same role.
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Just sold the X16. Carbon, here I come!
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Congrats I think you will really really like the sound when recording and overdubbing is like jamming live
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