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Can you post a picture of an SJ with the dimensions? Thanks.


The SJ is 15.5 across the lower bout (vs 15.25 for OM)

Top row 3rd from left is an SJ, bottom left is an SJ with a cutaway...
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The SJ is 15.5 across the lower bout (vs 15.25 for OM)

Top row 3rd from left is an SJ, bottom left is an SJ with a cutaway...
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The SJ is 15.5 across the lower bout (vs 15.25 for OM)

Top row 3rd from left is an SJ, bottom left is an SJ with a cutaway...
Hi Ed,

At post #24, Maluaka makes some very interesting comments about his OM and SJ and the woods you used. I think he also mentioned that his guitars appear a little deeper than the conventional measurements for OM-ish guitars. Can you perhaps confirm if this is the case, and if so, how much deeper they might be?
I love the extra body resonance that seems to come from the deeper body of my NL-00. Do you offer 'extra depth' as standard on other guitars or is this something that customers need to specify? Do you have any advice re extra depth - implications, impacts etc? How much of an issue/advantage might it be with the larger dimensions of the OM/SJ bodies?

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Most end up around 1/4" deeper so not a huge amount, whereas an NL-00 is around 3/4" deeper than you'd expect a normal 00.

If you wanted a significant amount of extra depth you'd need to ask for it.

The implications of extra depth are a slightly slower response and, as you mentioned, a deeper, lower, air resonance. It's only an advantage if that's what you want. If that's not what you want, then it's a disadvantage.

It might make sense on an OM and in fact I've done so (although it had a soundport which counteracts the deeper resonance, so it was a pleasant oddball), but I'm not sure if I'd suggest it for the SJ, since the SJ has a slightly larger soundhole than the OM which raises the main air resonance. So with a deeper body on the SJ you would be counteracting one of the subtle differences that separates the two models.
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I got "the email" from Ed.

My NL-00 is underway.





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Default Tinker SJ build

Just sent my payment over to start my Tinker SJ build. Hereís the specs for those interested...

Lutz Spruce top
Cocobolo Rosewood back and sides
Ebony fretboard and bridge
Koa inlay dots, bindings on neck, bindings on back and sides

Was going for an OM, but Ed convinced me of his SJ body style. Iím excited for this journey. Itís looking like a 12 month wait, but itíll make for a great 2018 Christmas present to myself. 😜

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Congratulations on your Tinker order. The specs sounds really great.
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Congratulations on your Tinker order. The specs sounds really great.
Thank you! What are your specs for the NL-00?
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Thank you! What are your specs for the NL-00?
Walnut back and sides, lutz top, ebony board and bridge with a 1.75" nut.
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Walnut back and sides, lutz top, ebony board and bridge with a 1.75" nut.
That sounds like a nice build! What brought you to choose the NL-00 body shape/size? Iíve never played one myself.
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That sounds like a nice build! What brought you to choose the NL-00 body shape/size? Iíve never played one myself.
I briefly owned a Gibson L-00 Standard which was a really fun guitar to play and sounded really good. I traded it in on my J-45 True Vintage, which is still my most-played guitar (including both acoustics and electrics, I just love it). After a while, I missed the small body and the sound of the L-00, but was intrigued by the extra bass and volume I could get out of the deeper NL-00 body, plus the 13 fret to body design seems quite interesting and I've read really good reviews.
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Ed just emailed me last night to say it should be done "in the next day or so"

Yes, I am excited.
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Ed just emailed me last night to say it should be done "in the next day or so"



Yes, I am excited.


Whaaaaaat?! Thatís great news! I expect a NGD post! [emoji3]
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Thanks for that review. I am eagerly awaiting word from Ed that mine is underway, as I expect it will be soon.
Hi jdto and all others reading the Halcyon/Tinker thread,

Best wishes for Christmas and the NY.

Jdto - On re-reading the thread I note that you have been thinking of ordering a guitar from Ed. I just wanted to say that I think it's important to have a good conversation with him about the sound you want and then make sure you go with both his advice and your own intuition and experience. My Lutz/Walnut NL-00 is the first 'custom' guitar I've ever purchased. Over the course of the ordering and building process I developed all sorts of expectations that evolved constantly as I received advice from Ed and thought more about woods etc.

Ed's guitars are built to a very high specification even though they are essentially unadorned and quite simple in exterior design - so you should have no concerns on that front or regarding playability etc. I believe that Ed's characteristic, overall sound derives to a large extent from his aim to produce a very light, resonant and responsive guitar - so again I don't think you should have any doubts about these qualities.

I'd suggest that any prospective purchaser focus their attention on the actual tonal qualities they are after - warmth, colour, overtones, 'bassiness', richness and 'woodiness', volume etc - and let that guide choice of woods, size, design and handling (fretboard, nut etc).

I suggested to Ed that I was after a very clear finger style sound and that's what he came up with. A guitar that:
- is quite loud, very responsive and resonant, very sensitive and having great dynamic range
- has a sound and quite a strident mid and treble voice
- has a clear and quite balanced bass voice, but I'd say not at all like that I've heard from say a spruce/rosewood Martin 00.
In retrospect I've wondered what my guitar would sound like with lutz/mahogany woods rather than walnut, mahogany lending (to my mind) a warmer, 'dryer' and overall more 'gutsy' and sweeter timbre when driven than walnut.

I subsequently decided that I'd like to try an 'Ed' guitar with a bit more bass, tonal colour and bloom. He advised that I go for his SJ model with a Lutz/RW body. Coincidentally he had a Lutz/Macacauba (similar to EIR) cutaway SJ in stock which seemed to match very much what I was after. It's on its way after Christmas and I'm very much looking forward to its arrival!

I live a long way from Vancouver and it's a bit weird buying a guitar without being able to play it. Ed did send photos and a short sound clip but it's not quite the same has having the instrument there on your lap. However I have a lot of faith in what Ed is doing and in his understanding of what I'm after.

Hope these musings are of assistance,

Sam.
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Hi jdto and all others reading the Halcyon/Tinker thread,

Best wishes for Christmas and the NY.

Jdto - On re-reading the thread I note that you have been thinking of ordering a guitar from Ed. I just wanted to say that I think it's important to have a good conversation with him about the sound you want and then make sure you go with both his advice and your own intuition and experience. My Lutz/Walnut NL-00 is the first 'custom' guitar I've ever purchased. Over the course of the ordering and building process I developed all sorts of expectations that evolved constantly as I received advice from Ed and thought more about woods etc.

Ed's guitars are built to a very high specification even though they are essentially unadorned and quite simple in exterior design - so you should have no concerns on that front or regarding playability etc. I believe that Ed's characteristic, overall sound derives to a large extent from his aim to produce a very light, resonant and responsive guitar - so again I don't think you should have any doubts about these qualities.

I'd suggest that any prospective purchaser focus their attention on the actual tonal qualities they are after - warmth, colour, overtones, 'bassiness', richness and 'woodiness', volume etc - and let that guide choice of woods, size, design and handling (fretboard, nut etc).

I suggested to Ed that I was after a very clear finger style sound and that's what he came up with. A guitar that:
- is quite loud, very responsive and resonant, very sensitive and having great dynamic range
- has a sound and quite a strident mid and treble voice
- has a clear and quite balanced bass voice, but I'd say not at all like that I've heard from say a spruce/rosewood Martin 00.
In retrospect I've wondered what my guitar would sound like with lutz/mahogany woods rather than walnut, mahogany lending (to my mind) a warmer, 'dryer' and overall more 'gutsy' and sweeter timbre when driven than walnut.

I subsequently decided that I'd like to try an 'Ed' guitar with a bit more bass, tonal colour and bloom. He advised that I go for his SJ model with a Lutz/RW body. Coincidentally he had a Lutz/Macacauba (similar to EIR) cutaway SJ in stock which seemed to match very much what I was after. It's on its way after Christmas and I'm very much looking forward to its arrival!

I live a long way from Vancouver and it's a bit weird buying a guitar without being able to play it. Ed did send photos and a short sound clip but it's not quite the same has having the instrument there on your lap. However I have a lot of faith in what Ed is doing and in his understanding of what I'm after.

Hope these musings are of assistance,

Sam.
Hi Sam. Thanks for the message and the kind words. Your advice is sound and I've been through the process with Ed and we settled on the Lutz/Walnut NL-00. I expect I'll be getting it very soon.
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