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Old 09-02-2019, 06:55 PM
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"What we have here is a failure to communicate".... lol

This is a perfect example of street smart vs book smart. I'll take street smart any day....
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So what was your offer?
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GC having a bad label is one thing. Having a mis-labeled block is another thing. Something is not adding up for me.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:09 PM
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IME you can come away with some great stuff at GC if:
  • you know exactly what you're looking at
  • you know exactly what you're looking for
  • you know exactly how much to pay (do your homework before you visit)
  • you avoid stores in major metropolitan/upscale suburban areas
  • you keep conversation with sales staff to an absolute minimum
  • you avoid weekends/coupon days (FYI you can get the same deals within a day or two after, with a manager's approval)
  • you're prepared to walk out with your self-respect and finances intact
The rest of the time it's a crap shoot...
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:25 PM
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Pretty tough situation. I wouldn’t know what to call it either. I don’t think the guy was lying or stupid. Just a confusing situation.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:57 PM
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In fairness, Martin has come out with so many different models in the past twenty five years that I find it virtually impossible to keep up, and I’m neither lying nor stupid. If the manager didn’t know what he had, maybe he had a few thousand other things to keep up with that day.

By the way, back when I was working retail, if a customer got that vitriolic about one of my fellow employees, whether my manager or anyone else, I would have said: “Nice talking to you, sir,” and walked away.


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Old 09-02-2019, 09:03 PM
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Telling a lower ranked employee that his manager is either lying or stupid is not a helpful or positive way to register a complaint, TwoMM. The clerk has no way to implement any changes or to help you, either one. It’s a conversational dead end, and it doesn’t serve any purpose other than to let you vent.

As I wrote in my earlier post, had you made that statement to me when I was working in retail I would have made polite murmurations of some sort, then immediately remembered something in back that I needed to attend to.

It’s that simple.


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Poor product knowledge.

A false id plate inside a lower model - probably traded as a D-16GT and entered into the system as a D-16GT.

Somewhere a scammer is laughing.
yup, my thought exactly. I never buy anything from GC.

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Old 09-02-2019, 09:21 PM
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So how much did venting at a minimum wage employee about something he had no control over improve your day? Was it worth it?
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:34 PM
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Im sure hes not trying to be dishonest - he probably doesnt know how to handle this and has to do what his employer tells him to do -you cant fault the fellow - it could mean his job.
Might be better to just wish him well and keep looking-
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:38 PM
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when I was working in retail I would have made polite murmurations of some sort,


Wade -- not to point too fine a point on it, but I think starlings do "murmurations" during migrations, but GC managers don't.

I normally wouldn't mention it, but it's one of my favorite words.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:15 PM
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Wade -- not to point too fine a point on it, but I think starlings do "murmurations" during migrations, but GC managers don't.

I normally wouldn't mention it, but it's one of my favorite words.
My mother was from an old Charleston, South Carolina family, and “polite murmurations” was a phrase that she and other family members and friends in that city used to mean “noncommittal pleasantries.” In other words, when you need to say something that doesn’t escalate a tense situation or someone is trying to get you to agree to something that you’re not interested in doing, to deflect them without being so emphatic that they redirect their indignation at you.

I’ve also seen the word “murmurations” used in connection with birds, but it’s the colloquial usage of the word that Charlestonians of my mother’s generation employed. There’s both a verbal elegance and precision to it in that meaning, which is why my sister and I still use it that way.

There’s also the old-time Charlestonian usage of the word “pixilated” - to indicate someone who’s slightly daft, or perhaps just marches to their own drummer - that I don’t use as often since the word has taken on new meaning in this Digital Age. But “pixilated” used to be just as archaic as “bumbershoot” for “umbrella” or “throwing a fantod” for “throwing a tantrum.”

Anyway, “murmurations” is a wonderful word, and I think it’s more than flexible enough to support both biological and sociological meanings. More power to both of them!


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Old 09-02-2019, 10:21 PM
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My mother was from an old Charleston, South Carolina family, and “polite murmurations” was a phrase that she and other family members and friends in that city used to mean “noncommittal pleasantries.”
My apologies, sir. I stand corrected.

Still love the word. Makes even more sense in your vernacular.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:42 PM
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My only thoughts about this situation are that the people in Guitar Center are not anywhere near as knowledgable about all the brands' product lines as people on internet message boards are, and that saying people are lying generally does not make a situation better.

Sometimes they have things mislabeled (both in the store's favor and in the customer's favor at times), we have probably all seen it, but there's not a lot to be done
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:44 PM
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My apologies, sir. I stand corrected.
No need for apologies, and you weren't corrected, you were just given a previously unknown definition and perspective on a grand old word.

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Still love the word. Makes even more sense in your vernacular.
Polite murmurations are our friends....I deploy them whenever needed. It's much more genteel to use polite murmurations to deflect someone rather than using the pointy end of a bumbershoot.


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