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Kyser capo and d tuning..
Just wondering but when I tune down a full step and apply the Kyser capo all the strings go sharp.. is the capo at fault? I retune after placing the capo. I just posted about my D-18 and playability.. maybe I need a better capo.
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Kyser capos quite commonly cause strings to go sharp. It's possible to avoid that when using one, but you've got to learn how to snug it in just right.
It's easier to get better results using a Shubb capo, frankly. whm |
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We had a thread just recently about this. Capos are all prone to pulling strings sharp. Some people suggest putting the capo on top of the fret, some right before it. The problem with the clamp type capos are you can't adjust the tension. The Planet Waves NS is inexpensive and has a knob you turn to tighten. It also has a lower profile than the Kyser clamp style. I now use a Paige Clik that is a yoke style and does a better job than the Planet Wave NS and it costs about $20. I'll be experimenting with capo placement and tension also tomorrow night. I usually just tune before and then adjust the tuning after putting it on. It's not a big deal, but on some nights its a little annoying.
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Thanks all.. just ordered a Kyser replacement...
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What did you order?
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I ordered a shubb
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Guitars go sharp when you fret strings. Not only by using a capo but even just making a chord with your fingers.
Tune your guitar in open position. Now with the tuner on, fret each string on the guitar at the third fret and check out the tuning. You will see that several strings are now sharp. A capo will make this occurrence even more exaggerated because of the extra tension used to get all of the strings ringing and not muted. An adjustable capo like a Shubb or Paige will make this less noticeable if you only apply the needed pressure. Capos like Kyser have preset pressure, which is usually overkill and will cause the guitar to go sharper than an adjustable capo will. The answer is to use the capo of your choice and adjust any strings that you have to and then play on.
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Kyser's are generally very high tension capos. You can bend it a bit to ease some of the tension. I don't usually use it, but I have one at home. I initially overdid the bending and had to put some tension back on - but it's better than it was.
I don't know anyone who uses a Kyser who doesn't retune at least the 6th string.
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