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Old 10-24-2014, 02:39 PM
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Default EIR Look vs Tone - Any Correlation?

Hi guys! I am a lucky new member of the AGF and just got access to your expertise. I plan to buy a Martin guitar with East Indian rosewood back and side. Could you please tell me if the differences in color and pattern make any difference acoustically (tone-wise)? More specifically, given these 2 choices (please see below) which one should I get, A or B? This is an online purchase, so I cannot play these guitars... Thank you so much!!

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Guitar A: Guitar B:

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Old 10-24-2014, 02:55 PM
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Old 10-24-2014, 03:50 PM
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Old 10-24-2014, 03:52 PM
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I'd ask the guy/gal who runs the shop to pick the best-sounding one and ship it.

Or at least describe whatever differences he hears between the two. Then you decide.

Or, just buy the prettiest one!
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Old 10-24-2014, 03:53 PM
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Not sure you can draw any conclusion based on looks vs sound. That said, if those guitars sound as good as those backs look (and the rest of the guitar looks that good), you can't go wrong.
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:56 PM
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You can't tell anything about tone by looking at wood.

I do like the looks of the first guitar more, but they're both gorgeous!
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:58 PM
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#2 sounds best to me... er wait.. looks... looks best to me.
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:56 PM
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The photos are too big to see! Shrink them to 800 or 900 width...

EAR?

EIR is usually East Indian Rosewood.

What is EAR, besides what you listen to your EIR with?



P.S. I think # 2 looks best, but get it in a usable size and I'll look again.
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:28 PM
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Neither. I don't like onboard electronics.

Besides, I don't think there is any correlation between looks and tone.
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:58 PM
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I'd ask the guy/gal who runs the shop to pick the best-sounding one and ship it.

Or at least describe whatever differences he hears between the two. Then you decide.

Or, just buy the prettiest one!
Great idea! Thank you!
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:05 PM
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Neither. I don't like onboard electronics.

Besides, I don't think there is any correlation between looks and tone.
I understand. A great guitar should not look like a computer.

That's what I wasn't sure about. There are a lot of technical terms online (e.g., quarter-sawn or not, grain tightness or not, silkiness, etc) that make me think that the way the wood was cut (and how it grew until it was cut) should affect sound quality somehow... But based on all the replies so far, there is probably no formula to anticipate that. Tap-tap or play is probably the answer. And if I understand it right, EIR crazy patterns on the back should not disqualify a guitar.

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Old 10-24-2014, 07:07 PM
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The photos are too big to see! Shrink them to 800 or 900 width...

EAR?

EIR is usually East Indian Rosewood.

What is EAR, besides what you listen to your EIR with?



P.S. I think # 2 looks best, but get it in a usable size and I'll look again.
Thanks man! They looked different on iPhone (screen-wide only). Thanks! And yes, I fixed the typo. Ups! First post is the hardest.
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:23 PM
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All kidding aside, they're each nice in their own way.

I have one that reminds me of the first. In pictures, it looks much more contrasting than it does in person. But, it is stunning.

The second is a bit more traditional.

I wouldn't worry about the looks of either. Ask for someone to play each of them over the phone or via Skype.

But, assuming all else being equal, I don't think you're going to hear too much difference.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:50 PM
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I am in the camp that I don't believe you will hear much difference based on the two. Both should be great guitars. I personally like the looks of the first better, just because I like the look of the brick red coloration. I have seen some Brazilian online that has some of the same coloring, and I really like it.

If looks are a factor, you might want to consider the tops also. Assuming the tops are Sitka? Soundwise, you may not notice much a difference. Visually, though, there could be some things you like/dislike about the tops. (bearclaw, runout, etc.) I personally don't mind those things, but others might. For what it's worth, the Martins I have seen and played have all been consistent visually and tonally.

Best of luck though. I think you will get a killer guitar either way.
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Old 10-24-2014, 10:21 PM
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Pick the one you like the looks of better, is my suggestion.
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