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Old 03-09-2020, 08:43 PM
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Default Alternatives to the SM58 Microphone

I've seen a couple of posts recently wher people have said that the SM58 sounds a little muddy, and I got a similar comment from Saturday nights performance, where someone said I sounded slightly muffled.

I was playing through my Boss Acoustic Singer Pro, and bought the SM58 purely because it is the industry workhorse, I'd had experience with it before, and I got a decent price at the time.

What are the good alternatives out there?

Is the muddiness/muffled sound a standard issue for dynamic style mics, or are some better than others?

I've had my eye on the Shure Super 55 in black, mosly because it looks super cool(pun unintended!!)


But perhaps someone has comparitives that they can inform me further on?
Admittedly, I was always told to basically eat the microphone when singing, but I don't think that has been the cause of any muddiness of muffling.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:51 PM
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I have difficulty singing as clearly as I should and partly solved the problem by going to Sennheisers, 835 and 945s. I like the 945 the best but it has a tighter pattern, which not everyone will like.
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Old 03-09-2020, 09:11 PM
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I'm having great luck With the Se V7....Great presence but it has a big bass boost if you get too close but if you know how to use a mic this is a great one..
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Old 03-09-2020, 09:35 PM
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I LOVE my Audix OM-3 mic for exactly that reason: more clarity, less mud. I also have an OM-5 (Willie Nelson, Ani DiFranco), which is more expensive, but I really can't tell the difference.

Anyway, I prefer it to my Shure Beta Sm-87, which is also a great mic (condenser and way more expensive).
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Old 03-09-2020, 09:39 PM
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I would HIGHLY recommend the Sennheiser e935's. Great sound, reasonably priced. I got a 2nd one after I got the first as a backup.

I found them both (very) slightly used on Reverb and they are a great deal, even at full retail.
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:27 PM
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I have difficulty singing as clearly as I should and partly solved the problem by going to Sennheisers, 835 and 945s. I like the 945 the best but it has a tighter pattern, which not everyone will like.
Was about to post the same thing. I too am very happy with my Sennheisers.
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The muddiness is probably from proximity effect. With directional mics, the closer you get, the more the low-end gets accentuated. Another factor can be the internal foam inside the mic's head. It breaks down and becomes opaque to high frequencies on the way into the element. I'd try to eq some of the mud out and/or back away from the mic a bit. Adding a bit of top-end might also help.
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The muddiness is probably from proximity effect. With directional mics, the closer you get, the more the low-end gets accentuated. Another factor can be the internal foam inside the mic's head. It breaks down and becomes opaque to high frequencies on the way into the element. I'd try to eq some of the mud out and/or back away from the mic a bit. Adding a bit of top-end might also help.
This is what I was thinking, too.

Most singers get right up on these mics and because of that there is a big bass boost caused by the proximity effect. Thinner voices might actually benefit from this boost, but someone with a fair amount of bass in his voice may end up sounding pretty muddy. I always found that EQing out about 6db of bass is helpful for my voice for this type of mic. As Rick notes, sometimes adding a little EQ in the upper midrange can increase clarity, again depending on the quality of your voice. Some voices benefit from a boost at about 2Khz to cut through. I found that a lot of women with a serious (that is, annoying) country edge on their voices benefit from a frequency cut at about 2 Khz.

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At least two posts mention Sennheiser and I can only agree. When reaching for mics for singers I almost always go for our e945s even though we also have B58, Neumann etc

As for the SM55, try before you buy. I hate them, find them very difficult to eq in a decent sound. They look cool yes but there are better mics out there.
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I'd suggest trying a Røde M1 - pretty similar to SM58, but with a little more clarity and even response through the frequency band, in my experience.
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The SM 58 was immediately a bad fit for for my baritone voice. I used an ATM Pro Audio 4 for years, then went through a few EV 767s. The 767s were great and I still keep a couple as backups. For the last few years, I have been using a Sennhauiser 935e and I like that the best. It is
also much more durable than the ev.
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not sure if this is true or not but i
heard the super 55 is just a 58 in a
cool package. I own a Heil pr35.
I love this mic. I bought it used and
its a twice the price of the 58.
but its a dynamic mic. no bstteries
or phantom power
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I get great results with Sennheiser e935, e945, EV ND767 (now the ND76), Heil PR20 and PR35, and the Blue Encore 100.
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Another vote for Sennheiser.

I have the e835 (really like it) just ordered the e945 and I'm expecting to be very happy with that as well.
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The reasons that the sennheiser 835 is better than sm58 for the same $ are: 1) more gain before feed back 2) frequency response bump in the upper mids results in crisp sound 3) less proximity effect.
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