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Old 11-24-2020, 02:50 PM
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Default Partial capo again

So I’m using this new to me partial capo and loving the tonalities it creates, so it capos 3 strings and mostly I have it on the 2nd fret and capoing strings 3,4 and 5 so instead of de tuning to DADGAD with the capo in this position it’s notes EBEABE
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Old 11-24-2020, 03:06 PM
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I don't get the attraction. Any fretted note is going to be the same as if you were in standard tuning. I guess if you want to give your fretting hand a rest ...
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Old 11-26-2020, 10:09 PM
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It's not about the "fretted" notes. Rather, the relationships of notes: the intervals. In this case, 'jansch' has created some intervals right up front that are not standard in standard tuning (perfect 5th's and a major 2nd). From there, they can go on to create sounds that would be either impossible, or very difficult, in standard tuning.

This is why folks like to play around with various capos. Or, change to a different tuning.........

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Old 11-27-2020, 12:14 AM
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I don't get the attraction. Any fretted note is going to be the same as if you were in standard tuning. I guess if you want to give your fretting hand a rest ...
Hi B-m
It's about the DADGAD interval spread (strings open) while in standard tuning. This makes it easy to play more Irishy style sounding chords and runs.

Here's a video I did for students and friends who were beginning to dabble with the 3 string capo. It's a quick way to start playing chords, and incorporate new slides and runs.

Esus capo four 1 finger chords
Esus four 1 finger chords - CliCk



I really need to redo this on this winter (it's a bit dated being from 2008).

I often use this capo and position to play in key of D relative to the capo when the band is playing in key of E. I can also capo at the 4th fret and play in C relative to it (still in E).

It brings new nuances and chord positions so we are not all playing the exact same things.

I've also ported some of my CGCGCD or DADGAD songs to this capo and tuning (it's not that much work) so I can play them in live settings without retuning or having 2 guitars.

Many do not make the journey note-for-note, but they certainly capture the flavor.

It's definitely not about giving my fretting hand a rest.



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Old 11-27-2020, 03:45 AM
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I love partial capos. What Larry said is right, it's got noting to do with making fretting easier. It's got everything to do with textures of sounds you can't get with out them
It's all about experimenting, so if you're not into that, you wont get the attraction at all.

and sounds like short cut is what the OP is using. Try in on the fourth fret!

C shapes will be able to use the open Es and B. Cool stuff.
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@Larry - is that nice little figure you play in your video from any particular piece? I use almost exactly that figure as the intro to, and between-verses link for, the Pogues’ song ‘Navigator’.
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Old 11-27-2020, 07:47 AM
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Here's a video I did for students and friends who were beginning to dabble with the 3 string capo.
Thanks for posting this - super helpful.
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@Larry - is that nice little figure you play in your video from any particular piece? I use almost exactly that figure as the intro to, and between-verses link for, the Pogues’ song ‘Navigator’.
Hi JB

Probably not, just noodling. I sat down and thought through what I wanted to share (because I play complicated things with the cut capo), and it was probably just fresh in my brain.



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Ah! Thanks Larry, however you came up with it, it’s very nice!
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