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Old 06-23-2022, 07:50 AM
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Default CEO-7 Golden Age Tuners

The tuners on my CEO-7 are good right now, but this is my 3rd Martin with the Golden Age tuners and I haven't had the best luck with them. I was able to get the ones on my 000-17 working pretty smoothly with some WD-40 and spinning them for several minutes with a high speed drill but it didn't help the tuners on the 000-15m Streetmaster that I traded for the CEO-7. I'm curious to see what other CEO-7 owners have upgraded their tunes to. I've been considering Gotoh Vintage Keystone since this guitar is Martin's nod to Gibson.
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Old 06-23-2022, 08:13 AM
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Are you using WD-40 as a solvent, or as a lubricant.
It does not work well as a lubricant.
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Old 06-23-2022, 08:44 AM
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Ah those Golden Age tuners. They work just long enough to suck you in!

I replaced them on my J-17 with Gotoh Kluson style enclosed tuners;



Two or so years later, that shine has toned down and I think they look more vintage than any open gear tuner and they work smoother. Especially since every new guitar comes with open gears.

I wouldn't trade back but one thing with the Gotoh's I've checked, the hole in the post is too low. I only get one wrap under on the low E string. I usually do 1 over, 2 under so it's no big deal, but I just thought I'd warn you.

Three years later and I still wish I ordered better tuners on the J-17!

Good luck with the new guitar!
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:08 AM
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Mick, I've also got to tell you, I just installed a Mojotone NC-1 soundhole pickup in my J-17. Holy Crap is this thing nice. I know you experiment with pickups including soundhole PU's and this is one you might want to give a try.

Here it is in the J-17;



To my ear, there is no effect on acoustic tone, and plugged in it just sounds glorious!

Again, good luck with the new guitar!
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:47 AM
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That Mojotone is nice and small!! I've never seen or heard on in the wild.
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Old 06-23-2022, 11:18 AM
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This is what I have on mine. But the Gotoh SE700 tuners come in all sorts of finishes, with all sorts of knobs, at a wide variety of price points. And they drop right in to the CEO-7

https://reverb.com/item/29843435-got...e=partnerstack

The original tuners on my CEO-7 weren't terrible, but they weren't nearly up to the rest of the guitar and since it was my only acoustic at the time, I bought a pair of these, which are much better tuners than the spec Golden Age tuners. Which LOOK great on that guitar, but they're just not that good...

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Old 06-23-2022, 11:56 AM
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This is what I have on mine. But the Gotoh SE700 tuners come in all sorts of finishes, with all sorts of knobs, at a wide variety of price points. And they drop right in to the CEO-7

https://reverb.com/item/29843435-got...e=partnerstack

The original tuners on my CEO-7 weren't terrible, but they weren't nearly up to the rest of the guitar and since it was my only acoustic at the time, I bought a pair of these, which are much better tuners than the spec Golden Age tuners. Which LOOK great on that guitar, but they're just not that good...

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As Ray mentioned, Gotoh 700's drop right in and work great. Was a quick and worthwhile upgrade over the Golden Age Restoration tuners on my CEO.
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:21 PM
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That Mojotone is nice and small!! I've never seen or heard on in the wild.
It weighs less than 1.6 oz.
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:23 PM
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This is what I have on mine. But the Gotoh SE700 tuners come in all sorts of finishes, with all sorts of knobs, at a wide variety of price points. And they drop right in to the CEO-7

https://reverb.com/item/29843435-got...e=partnerstack

The original tuners on my CEO-7 weren't terrible, but they weren't nearly up to the rest of the guitar and since it was my only acoustic at the time, I bought a pair of these, which are much better tuners than the spec Golden Age tuners. Which LOOK great on that guitar, but they're just not that good...

-Ray
Those do look really nice. Definitely will keep these in mind. They would look good on my 000-17 too when the Golden Age tuners on it crap out again.
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:24 PM
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I replaced the tuners on my CEO-7 with these. They drop in with no alteration.

https://reverb.com/item/35506490-new...ons-3x3-nickel
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Old 06-23-2022, 11:23 PM
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My CEO-7 got Gotoh SE700 as well. Nothing to drill or fill.
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I used Gotoh SE700 as well. I read a forum post where John Arnold said he used Gotoh SE700 tuners on his new guitars and that was enough of an endorsement for me to consider them
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Old 06-24-2022, 08:18 AM
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Ok once again y'all have convinced me. I just ordered two sets of Gotoh SE700 tuners. Nickel with white buttons for the CEO-7 and antique for my 000-17. Please watch the classifieds for a great sale on Golden Age tuners! LOL
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Old 06-24-2022, 12:52 PM
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How about we trade your Golden Age take-offs for my Golden Age take-offs and we pay each other $20 for taking them off of our hands!!
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Old 06-24-2022, 01:01 PM
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I bought a couple of sets of the 3 on a plate Golden Age tuners a few years back and did not use them. I would not be comfortable with sending any instrument I built utilizing them to someone else, and felt that they would just be a problem for me down the line.
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