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Old 08-18-2005, 10:10 AM
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I'm not going to lie I only read about three responses. Here's some shortcuts for B, I don't know if they've been mentioned, and I don't know if people will approve, but here goes:

B similar to G fingering (kind of not really):

0
3
2
0
2
X

B when passing from am to c ( and can be used for other things as well):

0
1
0
0
2
X

Also an easier way to prepare for the B if you're in the key of E and passing from an A to B is to play the A this way:

0
0
4
2
0
X

So you can easily slip into the B:
0
0
4
4
2
X

(I play lots of open chords)

Just a couple thoughts.

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Old 08-18-2005, 11:29 AM
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Fishing The Sky,

B similar to G fingering (kind of not really):
Not really !
What we have here is either a G6/9 or a Bm7sus4
0
3
2
0
2
X
Now, if leave the E out you have G9 or a Bm7
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B when passing from am to c ( and can be used for other things as well):Not really !
you have a Cmaj7add9
0
1
0
0
2
X
This chord can be used for example if you play 'Something' by Harrison C, Cmaj7add9, C7/Bb
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Also an easier way to prepare for the B if you're in the key of E and passing from an A to B is to play the A this way:
This is possibly a A9 (doubling up on the 9 twice?)
Actually, this chord is neither Major nor Minor, because the C# the 3rd is left out.
0
0
4
2
0
X

So you can easily slip into the B:
Again, Bsus4 and the 3rd (D#) is also missing
0
0
4
4
2
X

I hope this will help to clarify.
There are so many ways
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Fishing The Sky,

B similar to G fingering (kind of not really):
Not really !
What we have here is either a G6/9 or a Bm7sus4
0
3
2
0
2
X
Now, if leave the E out you have G9 or a Bm7
----------
B when passing from am to c ( and can be used for other things as well):Not really !
you have a Cmaj7add9
0
1
0
0
2
X
This chord can be used for example if you play 'Something' by Harrison C, Cmaj7add9, C7/Bb
---------
Also an easier way to prepare for the B if you're in the key of E and passing from an A to B is to play the A this way:
This is possibly a A9 (doubling up on the 9 twice?)
Actually, this chord is neither Major nor Minor, because the C# the 3rd is left out.
0
0
4
2
0
X

So you can easily slip into the B:
Again, Bsus4 and the 3rd (D#) is also missing
0
0
4
4
2
X

I hope this will help to clarify.
There are so many ways

Yeah I don't know anything about theory. I play every one of these chords alot and they all sound great in the music I write.
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Oh here's a couple more B's I play. if they aren't real B's, I don't care, because they sound like it.

B when going up and up in the melody from/to E F#M G#M A B:

0
0
6
7
7
0

(I think that's it, I'm at work and can't picture the fretboard too clearly in my head right now)

and also:

0
0
9
6
X
7

Yeah that's me.

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Learning harmony is not a bad thing !
BTW, you can't call a chord B, simply, because there happens to be B note in it.
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Sometimes I call chords B even when they don't have a B in them.

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I'm ashamed for you, Chris. Now I wouldn't THINK of doing a thing like that ....hehehee
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Sometimes I call chords B even when they don't have a B in them.

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If that's the only secret shame you are dealing with, you are in great shape.
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I'm ashamed for you, Chris. Now I wouldn't THINK of doing a thing like that ....hehehee


Thanks for the best laugh I've had today
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Thanks for the best laugh I've had today
But , 'B" 4 we exit this thread...let "C" where it will lead us...in spite of our own doings there has been some great info exchanged.
Don't think they all work for "B's" but still some good chords. just the same..

How 'bout " E d".....thoughts?????
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Learning harmony is not a bad thing !
BTW, you can't call a chord B, simply, because there happens to be B note in it.
But if it serves the purpose of a B in the Chord Progression, or if I'm playing the B as the bass note...why not? Theory is too limiting...
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But if it serves the purpose of a B in the Chord Progression, or if I'm playing the B as the bass note...why not? Theory is too limiting...
I used to feel the same way but, then it became necessary for me to share my music with other musicians and THAT is where the "language" becomes important, thus theory...whether we like it or not.
If it acts like a B and sounds like a B it could be a B..or not. I really doesn't matter what you play, only how you define it when you write it down in notation. Thank God for tab!!
Its always interesting to see what other people do to get the sound they want...and even more interesting to see what they CALL them.
Got any good ones for E d???
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I used to feel the same way but, then it became necessary for me to share my music with other musicians and THAT is where the "language" becomes important, thus theory...whether we like it or not.
If it acts like a B and sounds like a B it could be a B..or not. I really doesn't matter what you play, only how you define it when you write it down in notation. Thank God for tab!!
Its always interesting to see what other people do to get the sound they want...and even more interesting to see what they CALL them.
Got any good ones for E d???
No no I understand, my wife is a music ministry major and gets MAD at me when I won't listen to her theory talk. I really do understand its neccessity, but as a singer/writer, without need or care for notation for others, just figuring out the way to play (or Emulate) the chords I need is what's most important to me right now.

E..hmm..I play these variations for Em all the time:

0 0 7
0 0 0
0 7 0
5 5 5
7 7 7
0 0 0

i got all kinds of weird ones...and like I said.. I really like an open sound, so it shows through the chords I play and the way I play them...
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But if it serves the purpose of a B in the Chord Progression, or if I'm playing the B as the bass note...why not? Theory is too limiting...
AMEN, I say to thee (or y'all).

By the way, that's not the only secret shame Chris has...
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But if it serves the purpose of a B in the Chord Progression, or if I'm playing the B as the bass note...why not? Theory is too limiting...
That is just so wrong. I'm positively flabbergasted.
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