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Old 12-21-2020, 09:33 AM
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Default Mag soundhole pickup in a shorty.

Hi
I have a used shorty coming today.
My first CF guitar.
I've never been a big fan
Of piezo pickups for live stage
Band use. Has anyone ever
Used mag pups in a carbon
Fiber guitar? I have a m80 and
A sunrise. I like the sunrise in my Taylor dread. And if I like the shorty
I may try it.just wondering if anyone
Else uses one in their OM cf
I will certainly try the prefix t
But will probably go with the
Color coordinated Sunrise
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Old 12-21-2020, 12:29 PM
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Hi
I have a used shorty coming today.
My first CF guitar.
I've never been a big fan
Of piezo pickups for live stage
Band use. Has anyone ever
Used mag pups in a carbon
Fiber guitar? I have a m80 and
A sunrise. I like the sunrise in my Taylor dread. And if I like the shorty
I may try it.just wondering if anyone
Else uses one in their OM cf
I will certainly try the prefix t
But will probably go with the
Color coordinated Sunrise
Hey Varmonter--Congrats on the new/used Shorty. is a great guitar in my opinion and I would still have mine if not for the neck. If you like a beefy neck profile I bet you will dig it. I can't give direct information on a soundhole pup because mine was equipped with a K&K.

As far as soundhole pups, I've seen a couple examples. There was a guy who sold a Shorty a couple years back (user handle joeguam) who sold his Shorty here equipped with a Baggs M1. You might want to PM him directly for further information. Here is a link to the thread of that guitar and then a video of what it sounded like with an M1.

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...ainsong+shorty

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Old 12-21-2020, 03:05 PM
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Hi
I have a used shorty coming today.
My first CF guitar.
I've never been a big fan
Of piezo pickups for live stage
Band use. Has anyone ever
Used mag pups in a carbon
Fiber guitar? I have a m80 and
A sunrise. I like the sunrise in my Taylor dread. And if I like the shorty
I may try it.just wondering if anyone
Else uses one in their OM cf
I will certainly try the prefix t
But will probably go with the
Color coordinated Sunrise
Hey Varmonter!
I have a Rainsong CH-OM basically the same as your Shorty (congrats!) I use an LR Baggs M1A in mine and I much prefer that to the built in Baggs undersaddle/preamp.
Hope this helps.
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Old 12-21-2020, 06:47 PM
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I had a Shorty for a few years and really liked the sound and onboard controls with the Fishman Prefix+T. I haven't used a soundhole pickup in several decades, so I can't give you and advice regarding that. I only buy acoustics with onboard pickups... give that Fishman a try; I'm guessing you will like it.
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Old 12-24-2020, 07:06 AM
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So the shorty sg came.
Unfortunatly it wasn't set up
Very well. So I've been
A bit busy doing that. I've
Plugged it in and the pickup
works..after replacing the dead
Battery. So the jury is still
Out on the ust. I'm just not
A fan.but I'll play with it some
more now that I have the guitars
action to where its playable.
This is my first CF guitar
. And I'm liking the acoustic tone that comes out of this thing.
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Old 12-24-2020, 09:21 AM
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So the shorty sg came.
Unfortunatly it wasn't set up
Very well. So I've been
A bit busy doing that. I've
Plugged it in and the pickup
works..after replacing the dead
Battery. So the jury is still
Out on the ust. I'm just not
A fan.but I'll play with it some
more now that I have the guitars
action to where its playable.
This is my first CF guitar
. And I'm liking the acoustic tone that comes out of this thing.
The action on the Shorty I had was uncomfortably high when it arrived. A good set-up makes a real difference. RainSong could learn from Taylor, by having their guitars set up with reasonably low action from the factory. I was sold on the sound at the first strum. I credit that guitar with hooking me on carbon fiber. It was traditional looking enough that it didn't seem like that big of a leap of faith, buying it without actually seeing/playing it first. I was told it was like a carbon fiber version of a Taylor Grand Concert. Yeah, except for that chunky neck.

I really appreciated the Fishman barndoor pickup, though - I like having that control right on the guitar. There is a lot to like about the Shorty, especially if you are good with the neck profile.

Enjoy getting comfortable with it.
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Old 12-24-2020, 09:45 AM
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Yes I dont seem to mind the neck
So much after I set it up
to play better. Time will tell.
I have big hands and long fingers.
So this chunky neck Is ok everywhere.
I just recently sold an old 30s birch parlor.
And it had a similar profile.
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Old 12-24-2020, 05:38 PM
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I hate mag pickups because they sound, well, magnetic. I prefer a piezo or a soundboard transducer.

I have a Lace that I swap between guitars, and it works just fine in my shorty and my parlor.
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Old 12-25-2020, 10:05 AM
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I hate mag pickups because they sound, well, magnetic. I prefer a piezo or a soundboard transducer.

I have a Lace that I swap between guitars, and it works just fine in my shorty and my parlor.
A lace soundhole pu sounds interesting. No magnetic sound?

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Old 12-26-2020, 08:26 PM
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A lace soundhole pu sounds interesting. No magnetic sound?
It's not bad, some other brands end up sounding like you are playing an electric.

Eventually I will probably break down and put in either a JJB or K&K in the Parlor, though those have their obvious downsides as well.

I wanted something I could swap arroudn though, and this fits the bill, I also like how the jack clips on the endpin.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...-guitar-pickup

Was also on sale last year when I bought it.
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:11 AM
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It's not bad, some other brands end up sounding like you are playing an electric.

Eventually I will probably break down and put in either a JJB or K&K in the Parlor, though those have their obvious downsides as well.

I wanted something I could swap arroudn though, and this fits the bill, I also like how the jack clips on the endpin.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...-guitar-pickup

Was also on sale last year when I bought it.
Well after playing with the onboard Fishman prefix t I think I may end up trying my sunrise in this shorty. Best part about the prefix +t is the +t
Just not a fan of the quack.
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