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02-08-2023, 09:53 AM
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I have two BlueRidge guitars...do these look like Brazilian RW?
These were my Dad's BlueRidge guitars, a BR180-A and a BR283-A. Yes I will be listing them in the classifieds soon and I'm trying to figure out for sure what the wood is. I know that BlueRidge used Brazilian RW on these models until their supply ran out, and I know these were made in 2011. Most of his other guitars are high end Martin, Gibson, and Bourgeois so I'm thinking the reason he got these was because they were Brazilian but of course I can't go by that.
I'm thinking one very well may be and one is not as they look very different but would love some expert opinions! Please have a look! BR-283A https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgsDjaIRsv1eiPly...7p7YQ?e=RdoxNI BR-180A https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgsDjaIRsv1eiYQZ...ncJ2Q?e=YRN7NF Last edited by Carolina Blues; 02-08-2023 at 01:15 PM. 
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#2
02-08-2023, 10:22 AM
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The BR-283 definitely looks like Brazilian, the other looks like Indian.
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02-08-2023, 10:41 AM
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They both look Indian to me, the first having more figure being partially slab cut.
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02-08-2023, 11:06 AM
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If you want to be absolutely sure, jot down the serial numbers and reach out to Saga and see what they say. Then you’ll be absolutely sure. Even experienced woodworkers and luthiers cannot always identify a wood species from a photo.
Best, Jayne
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02-08-2023, 12:50 PM
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Blueridge also uses a type of rosewood called Santos. It can have grain pattern that resembles Brazilian Rosewood. Not sure about yours.
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02-08-2023, 01:06 PM
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02-08-2023, 05:35 PM
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The Santos, AKA Bolivian rosewood or pau ferro Blue Ridges were a short term solution to the CITES restrictions. AFAIK, those were the 160 and 180 series
Blue Ridge also has used Santos on the laminated 60 and 70 series. But AFAIK, the 200 series were Brazilian, albeit a low grade. Many of those were stumpwood.
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02-08-2023, 06:40 PM
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I thought the 263 was also Pau Ferro for awhile? I have been on the fence about getting one forever, but the Pau Ferro "Bolivian" or "Santos" Rosewood was a No-go. I heard samples and it was bright and brash... Love my 243a and thought I'd get the other but... I just looked on reverb and there is one "Brazilian" dread there from 2005. The coloring is VERY similar to the OP's photo..lot more Green/Raw umberish characteristics than EIR Really hard to keep up with Saga. Using words like "premium" and "select" is not too confidence instilling and they are not in stores to try. After you've sort of learned what tones you like it is just one more thing to make you uncomfortable buying it online. I just scanned Maury's and the only model in the 'pre-war' series that specifies it's species as EIR IS the 263. I also noticed that only the 180,280 etc have relatively straight grain.. even the 260's have that Half-sawn wildish looking grain. They sound amazing on the demo's But Maury and co. are really good players (LOL) We own a giant slab Rosewood Coffee table my parents bought back when they were wealthy in the 60's. We lived in Argentina. I have been tempted to 'liberate' it. But yeah, the 283 looks like BR and the 180a looks like EIR.
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02-08-2023, 06:58 PM
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While it's true that you can't know for absolute certain just by looking, I find it hard to believe that Blueridge could have been in possession of Brazilian that's as straight-grained as that BR-180A.
The best builders on earth don't really seem to have access to Brazilian that good.
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02-08-2023, 07:26 PM
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The OM model looks to be Brazilian
The Dreadnaught is definitely Indian Rosewood And that was a great idea to call Saga with the serial number and confirm the wood type on the OM. That OM is a fabulous looking guitar!!! duff Be A Player...Not A Polisher
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02-08-2023, 08:31 PM
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The OM model BR-283 looks to be Brazilian. But can't be confirmed. The side of the OM looks to be Indian.
The dread-naught is definitely Indian Rosewood. Looks like it from a relatively younger tree.
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02-08-2023, 09:03 PM
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The 283 looks like the grade of Brazilian that Blueridge was using in the early-2K's, but TMK the 180 was always Indian...
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02-08-2023, 09:07 PM
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This is great info, I'm enjoying reading all of it!
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