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Emerald Bone Saddle Mod (Success Finally)
Well after months of trying to dye a bone saddle black for my Emerald guitar I finally succeeded, after many many many failed attempts. I won't reiterate on all the things I've tried that didn't work. And just to add I didn't want to paint the saddle I wanted it completely dyed. I'll post some before and after pics later when I get home from work.
First off here's a link to the bone saddle. These are made by MacNichol guitars and they are quality bone saddles and the closest match to the stock tusq saddle that Emerald uses: https://www.amazon.com/Unbleached-Sa...P5Z8HESCDTW5K4 Okay so I should also mention that there's absolutely nothing wrong with the stock tusq saddle. There's also nothing wrong with using a normal white bone saddle either. I don't think it looked out of place as white I just think aesthetically the black is a better match for Emerald guitars. The same could be said for Rainsong or other carbon guitars that ship with white saddles. I tried the bone saddle on my X30 (before I gave it to my uncle) first and than on my X20 and I personally preferred the bone tone better than tusq. It made the tone have more snap and crispness and better clarity. For those who are not happy with the tone of their guitar replacing the saddle from tusq to bone is a cheap and easy mod that in some cases can make a huge difference. If you don't like the change you can easily revert back. So to dye the bone saddle black here's what I did that worked (you should shape the saddle first before you dye it). You can vary the materials somewhat, I just used what I already had at home and turned to Chemistry 101. First, I made 2 liquid solutions at the same time. One solution I poured white vinegar into a bowl (just enough to cover the size of the saddle) and in my case I added black keda dye as I already had that on hand. I would think that you could use practically anything to add to the vinegar so long as the mixture was black and the overall solution is acidic. The 2nd liquid solution was very simply pouring lemon juice into a container and adding a piece of steel wool. This creates an iron salt solution. Take the bone saddle and place it in the acidic solution and leave it in there for a full day. Next take the now black bone saddle (using rubber gloves) and place it in the iron salt solution for another day. Now when you remove it the black dye (or whatever you use) will be completely absorbed into the bone. Wash it off with water and let it sit for a few hours to dry. Voila, you now have a permanently dyed black bone saddle. Thought I should share this for those interested. Here's some pics of before and after: [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] Last edited by GuitarLuva; 05-27-2019 at 09:07 PM. Reason: Add Pics |
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Guitarluva, I enjoy reading all your experiments and I am glad it worked out. I have been thinking stealth black look for my OF660 and I might give it a try with a second set of nut and saddle since I like the current ivory bowtie look as well.
I wonder if I could do the same to my Chrome tuner... |
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Interesting chronicle. Thanks for taking the time.
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My pleasure. I know a few others on here bought the same saddle and might be interested in dyeing it black. |
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Aesthetics aside, how much difference do you hear in the sound with the new saddle? Did you sand the bottom of the new saddle yourself and tweak it for intonation or did you have someone a luthier do that part?
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I only succeeded this experiment just last night so I have yet to put it back on. When I get home from work tonight I need to gently buff the saddle with scotchbrite and then polish it before I reinstall it. Hopefully tonight I should say! |
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I wonder if Colortone stain would work for other colors.
https://www.stewmac.com/Materials_an...id_Stains.html
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I don't have any problem fine-tuning intonation on my electrics, which all have adjustable saddles, but I've never messed with it on an acoustic. Did you have to sand any of the string contact points to move them slightly fore or aft or was the intonation fine out of the package? The stock saddle has the guitar perfectly intonated and I'm not that confident about trying to adjust that. The dying of a white saddle is something I might or might not even do. If I try one and really like the sound, I might eventually get around to trying to dye it, but more likely I'd just get used to it and leave it white. |
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I've always found that once the saddle height was in spec the intonation was fine.
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I concur. I did sand the bone saddle a tad lower than the stock tusq saddle (deliberately). I just finished putting it on. I checked intonation with a normal chromatic tuner and everything was spot on with that. I definitely like it better than the tusq saddle as I said earlier.
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I'm not usually all that anal about intonation - one of my electrics is a three saddle telecaster withOUT compensated saddles. But I recently checked my X7 because I was trying a set of strings (Newtone Heritage) that someone here had posted several years ago they were specifically told by the Newtone folks shouldn't be used on short scale guitars because they won't intonate properly. So when I put a set on, I checked the intonation (Polytune 3, in strobe mode) and it was perfect. Then I emailed the folks at Newtone and they basically nicely suggested I shouldn't believe everything I read on the internet... But I should be able to match saddle height pretty easily and if the intonation is chromatic-close, I'm cool with that. And if I love the difference, maybe someday I'll get around to trying to dye the saddle. -Ray |
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I have one more mod planned for the X20 during the next couple weeks. I do tinker a lot, but I never do anything that isn't reversible, well that's not totally true. |
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I couldn't find a fretboard radius listed on that Amazon link.
Emeralds typically have 16" radius fretboards. https://emeraldguitars.com/guitars/specifications/ https://www.thaliacapos.com/pages/fr...tar-make-model
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