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Old 05-07-2013, 09:31 AM
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I am trying to start recording with absolutely NO recording experience at all. I have a Mac with GB and have purchased the Logic Pro Suite.

I want to crawl before I run and have read through the manual, but find I am quickly overwhelmed and have yet to get anything reasonable on 'tape".

Is there a simple "getting started for complete idiots" guide out there?

I have been focused on starting with Logic, but am about to start playing with GB hoping it's a little easier and intuitive and then work back to Logic once I have it figure out.

Oh, and I do have a pretty good interface, so that's not a problem. I can definitely get a signal, it's just getting it to record without timing out, and then figuring out how to copy sections of track and either doubling, or inserting section after section (record one verse, chorus, bridge, and then copying and pasting into a complete song).

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Old 05-07-2013, 09:46 AM
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You'd have to define "recording without timing out". I've never heard of that error.

As to editing. Garage Band is extremely limited in it's editing capabilities. If in fact editing is an important component to your work-flow I'd stay with Logic. In the end good editing is a combination of a learned skill and talent. As with anything that is a skill and a talent it takes a bit of a commitment. That said there's a bunch on "on-line" tutorials that are really pretty good. There's a couple really good on-line tutorial companies. Try Groove 3.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:38 AM
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As to editing. Garage Band is extremely limited in it's editing capabilities. If in fact editing is an important component to your work-flow I'd stay with Logic.
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This is the truth.

I use GarageBand on an iPad and it does "time-out" in as much as you cannot record for more than a few minutes (vs hours on my Mac), but I would never contemplate editing on it; I assume you're using a Mac since Logic is a possibility for you?

I transfer my takes to Logic and then edit in there. I use about 5% of the programs functionality, if that, and agree it can be awful if you are a noob. I got a Logic for idiots manual but - to be honest - a few hours in front of YouTube after searching "Logic Pro editing" will get you there.

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Old 05-07-2013, 10:52 AM
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Thank you both very much for the advice. I have a lot of problems , but as my timing sucks, what I really want to do is be able to lay one good verse, chorus and bridge, and be able to create a complete song out of cutting and pasting, and I just can't figure that out.

I will invest some time on Youtube looking up Logic Pro Editing and see what I can find.

Thanks again.
Heath
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:58 AM
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I have Garageband and Logic Pro and I do all my stuff in Garageband. I would work within GB before trying Logic. There is an online training video site called Macprovideo.com that has a lot of stuff for both platforms. There is even a switching from GB to Logic tutorial.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:03 AM
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Oh, and I do have a pretty good interface, so that's not a problem. I can definitely get a signal, it's just getting it to record without timing out, and then figuring out how to copy sections of track and either doubling, or inserting section after section (record one verse, chorus, bridge, and then copying and pasting into a complete song).
You've most likely got Logic Pro waiting on a MIDI interface you're not using.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:55 AM
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You've most likely got Logic Pro waiting on a MIDI interface you're not using.
Interesting. Again, if that's correct, it's likely something that will screw me up for hours.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:42 PM
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I second the recommendation of 'membler' for Macprovideo. I started with Garage Band and after getting some acceptable results went with Logic Studio 2 (Logic 9) via Logic Express and Logic Studio (Logic 8) . In my case, it just took time and practice (and I'm still 'practicing'). I also found a good tutorial on mixing at the same place.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:15 AM
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Last night I listened to video one of AreaRecordings' Introduction to Logic Pro series. It was 30 minutes and have the basics, plus some good tricks to set a template.

I played around with Logic after that and was able to figure out how to lay a single track. There are at least three more videos in the into series for 2 total hours, so I plan to watch those over the next few days.

I was looking for Macprovideo intro to Logic series, but could not find it for free. They seem to only have it on their pay site. Can anyone confirm that it is available for free? $20 seems like a lot of money for a single tutorial.......
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:33 AM
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The Macprovideo training tutorials have multiple lessons. The Logic 101 has 210 lessons while the GB 11 has 75 lessons. If you click on 'outline' for a particular series the lessons show up and some of them can be previewed without charge. Once downloaded, you can return to a particular lesson time after time. I have no affiliation with Macprovideo. The tutorials have just helped me a lot.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:12 AM
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Logic is massive overkill for what you're trying to do. GarageBand is built for exactly this task. It will fall short for other things, but if you want to record yourself, copy, paste, add tracks on top of tracks, add effects, etc., GarageBand will do the job nicely. In fact, some of the best home recordings I've ever heard have come from GB.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:37 PM
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i disagree that logic is overkill. it can do very basic stuff to very detailed stuff. garageband is too basic and doesn't allow you to bounce tracks without going thru itunes, no editing, etc.
just take your time and start with an apple drum loop to keep your timing. then record over and over until you get it right, no matter whether it is a one minute song or a 10 minute song.
make sure to check the apple discussion forum for logic. a wealth of info there and people who have already gone thru what you are now doing.

here is the link to the logic forum:
https://discussions.apple.com/commun...categoryID=231

here is sf ninja and tons of his tutorials on logic:

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...be.kBx0OYIGLQA

and, here is a google search of david nahmani's apple logic certification book if you would prefer a book. it is very well organized and walks you thru recording while you apply the information. david runs the logicprohelp forum which you should join also.

https://www.google.com/search?q=logi...=1804&bih=1058

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Old 05-21-2013, 05:18 AM
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Hope I'm not too late jumping in but, check out the free recording classes held at your local Guitar Center.

It's a series of four and they teach either GarageBand or ProTools. Just an introduction but a great way to get started.

I'm using Mixcraft 5 on a PC which is VERY similar to GarageBand so the classed helped a lot.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:00 AM
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Stay with Logic, learn what you need as you need it. Most people use only a small portion of its capabilities.

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