JBL EON ONE Pro

[dragonfly66]

Since the other thread was closed I guess we will start again.

If you are looking for the previous discussion on the the JBL EON One Pro look here, http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/f...d.php?t=465577


As soon as I posted the last comment in the other thread, the One Pro started whistling again. So it must be related to the heat as the mixer is quite hot now from being plugged in. The high-pitched whistling is there even when all input levels are on zero. It only goes away if the master is on zero ;-).

I didn't have a chance to call JBL, but will tomorrow to see if I can get an explanation and or if there is a possible fix. I'm guessing something is too close to something else.

[Cuki79]

Thanks Dragonfly, I can't wait to read your opinion about how the hk nano 608i stand against the JBL. Did you download the iPad app yet?

One thing I believe is necessary to set is the low cut on the hk nano. I am not sure it is included by their "custom shaped" tone knob

[DavidE]

Never mind. Answered my own question

[dragonfly66]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

Thanks Dragonfly, I can't wait to read your opinion about how the hk nano 608i stand against the JBL. Did you download the iPad app yet?

One thing I believe is necessary to set is the low cut on the hk nano. I am not sure it is included by their "custom shaped" tone knob

Thanks, haven't downloaded it yet.

I didn't realize it didn't come with a pole, uugh.

Also, on page 12 of the 608i manual, it shows the dispersion changes when you use one speaker vs two, http://87.106.71.220/oma/hk/manual/L...8i_BDA_1_1.pdf. Seems I would have to use only one speaker to be more similar to the JBL. With two speakers the vertical dispersion seems more like a regular top than a stick style.

[dragonfly66]

So back from practice and I plug the One Pro in and it doesn't take long, maybe 10 minutes to hear the high-pitched whistle. The mixer isn't even hot right now, it isn't even warm. The battery is fully charged before I plugged it in.

I unplugged it and it is still making the high-pitched noises, so not related to heat or AC power.

Again I have all inputs on zero and the master volume at noon. Nothing plugged in.

What in the world is going on?

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by dragonfly66

Thanks, haven't downloaded it yet.

I didn't realize it didn't come with a pole, uugh.

Also, on page 12 of the 608i manual, it shows the dispersion changes when you use one speaker vs two, http://87.106.71.220/oma/hk/manual/L...8i_BDA_1_1.pdf. Seems I would have to use only one speaker to be more similar to the JBL. With two speakers the vertical dispersion seems more like a regular top than a stick style.

In a French magazine in which they do all kind of measurements. The dispersion of the HK 600 has been measured to be superior horizontally. Vertically the JBL suffers from a lot of interferences making bumps in the spectrum at different angles. I'll send you a pm.

The pole is an advantage because you can tune the distance between the subwoofer and the speakers to adjust the "mid-frequency" hole that occurs with those devices. It was described in the magazine as a good thing.

Cuki

[KevWind]

Humm ??? seems like they may have gone into production prematurely .

[necrome]

So sorry to hear that both units have this fault. Hope they can offer a refund or something! What a terrible waste considering it's a second-gen offering!

[Cuki79]

Dragonfly66

did you order the mount pole for the HK?


One of the drawbacks of HK is that all accesories are optionals.

But it also means you can also buy wall mounts to use your Nano 600 in your rehearsal room in stereo and have the speakon cables embedded in the wall.

Cuki

[Groberts]

My Duo partner ordered a JBL EON One Pro fro mSweetwater a couple days ago. I will report back once we check it out. We both have Bose L1 compacts that we use with an external Mixer. We have Mackie DL1608, Behringer xair and QSC touchmix 8. They work great with the Bose.

I am not sure how often we will go direct to the JBL EON One Pro without an external mixer. So I am not too concerned about input level gain. Additionally I always use a Fishman Platinum Pro EQ preamp on my pedal board for my acoustic guitar and my partner uses a TC Helicon.

As long as our Sennheiser e935 Vocal mics have plenty of gain, I think we'll be good.

[dragonfly66]

I'm using a e935 and it does not have enough gain by itself to keep up with a hi-z guitar input. I have to set the mic all the way up and the hi-z input only a quarter of the way up to match levels.

Of course any outboard mixer or pre-amp pedal will fix this.

I am going to order the S-connect pole - it does come with a speaker mount that I can sit on top of a regular speaker stand.

I can return the JBL One Pro within 45-days, but it will likely go back as a failed item, not as a regular return. Remember the first time I called JBL about the high-pitched noise they told me that was not normal and to return it. Will call again today and see what they say.

I left a message for the first guy who demo'd his on YouTube and he hasn't responded yet to see if he hears this high-pitched sound.

[Groberts]

Originally Posted by dragonfly66

I'm using a e935 and it does not have enough gain by itself to keep up with a hi-z guitar input. I have to set the mic all the way up and the hi-z input only a quarter of the way up to match levels.

Of course any outboard mixer or pre-amp pedal will fix this.

Thx Dragon. That's kinda messed up. Mitigates the value on the onboard mixer to some degree. Granted, we use outboard mixers mostly but the value of the EON One Pro is that it is "all-in-one". But if it doesn't deliver on its promise, ....$1499 is a lot of coin. At least there is a 45 day return policy with Sweetwater.

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by dragonfly66

I am going to order the S-connect pole - it does come with a speaker mount that I can sit on top of a regular speaker stand.

Dragonfly if you use it on a standard speaker stand I think you need a separate speakon cable.

Cuki

[dragonfly66]

@Groberts Agreed, an outboard mixer is an ok compromise on the One, not so much on the One Pro. They have to be betting on the battery.

@ Cuki79 I ordered the S-Connect pole, should be here at the same time as the 608i. You are right, you have to have a speakon cable when not using the S-Connect pole. If I go stereo I can use the adapter for the second speaker on one of my existing speaker stands. This is great, though not quite all-in-one. Seems you cannot have it all, to get something you have to give up something unless you are willing to pay bigger bucks. I picked up a demo model of 608i, if you add the s-connect pole it still comes out less than new, but more than the deal I got on the JBL One Pro. If you don't need the battery the 608i has more features and a better mixer, at least for EQing and inputs. I won't be sure about the gain until it gets here.

Question on the Ones' different speaker housings. The One has grill all the way around, where the One Pro has plastic on the sides. Do you think this affects the dispersion at all? Now that I look at them both it looks like the One Pro's housing is leaner. Looks like the plastic is there on the inside of the One housing, you just can't see it because of the square grill. So would the either design have any advantages?

[Cuki79]

From the speaker arrangement I would say, it can't be worse. It could be better actually...

JBL eon one:


JBL eon one pro: