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From an earlier reply I wrote: > I'm trying to add reverb & chorus to my guitar chain. The Shen has reverb but I intend to use that for the vocal channel only as those settings will probably be different from what I want for guitar. I know there's an effects loop but just thought it might be a "cleaner" setup having whatever pedals/boxes at my feet with one cable running to the amp. Thoughts?< Frank |
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Have a look at the Boss VE8 ( I have one - fabulous!): https://www.boss.info/global/products/ve-8/ TC Electronics have a similar Play Acoustic unit... BluesKing777. |
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Thanks! Frank |
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As BluesKing777 suggests, another way to do this is to ignore the effects on the Shen and use one of those vocal/guitar pedal units like the TC Helicon Play Acoustic or similar. Louis |
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Just a few more thoughts on the Genz...... I have found that I like the guitar channel with ....here we go, heresy they cry.........no effects. The treble on about 9 o'clock, bass at 10 o'clock and the mids swept to suit the guitar. (I played 3 guitars just then through the Genz and just found out the standard soundhole plug for my Martin D18 doesn't fit my Lowden S35!) So I played at approx the same master volume setting with the channel gain on 12 0'clock. No reverb as I think it adds that little thing that makes the guitar sound 'electric' for want of a better word... Splash of plain reverb for the vocals only. Try it, it sounds really nice. (I never want to sing again without reverb - lots!) So first I played my Maton SRS808 with the fab Maton AP5-Pro pickup with condenser mic and undersaddle on full! Custom small Maton soundhole cover in! This is ready to roll! Nothing else needed. Next I played my Lowden S35 with K&K Mini direct to amp. No soundhole cover - will need one to go louder or ...gulp...gaffa tape. Sounds great. Nothing else needed. Next was my Martin D18E Retro with Aura inbuilt with standard soundhole cover - Aura was on the Easy Mode no 1 image. Sounded great but I can see rejigging the whole eq......... So I guess what I am saying is that you don't need a thing - Guitar > K&K Mini > Genz Benz! All Systems Go! Buy your self a nice....something instead... BUT... If you want to leave the Genz at home and need a unit for guitar/vocal direct to someone's PA....Boss VE8. BluesKing777. |
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I checked out the VE8 & really like it. Don't really need the vocal section, though. I have that signal chain pretty much taken care of with Sennheiser mics & Joe Meek processor. OK, so I finally got around to firing up the Shen 85. So far, I've only had my old D-18 with K&K plugged in. Flattened everything up, swept & gently corrected the mids, & played. I agree with all those that reaffirmed how good that combo really is! Short of a ToneDexter :-), the guitar sounded pretty good. I'll try my K&K pup'd OM-21 later. That said, I still want to add a guitar specific reverb & chorus to the chain. I'm wondering if this combination would check all the boxes for me: K&K pup'd guitar > TC Electronic PolyTune 3 (partly for the buffer function) > Fishman ToneDEQ (yeah, I keep coming back to that s/fx unit :-) > G-B Shen 85. - Tune/Mute Pedal - levels out all the electronic issues in this chain - Reverb/Chorus (+ addition fx to play with :-) - EQ / Lo-Cut (L-M-H only OK since I have the sweep-able mids of the Shen) - Compressor (a nice add that I hadn't really thought I'd get quite yet) - Boost (again, a nice add for me) - DI + Amp out from ToneDeq to Shen Lots of checks! So, what am I missing? Frank Last edited by fwphoto; 05-26-2018 at 03:04 PM. |