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Old 05-14-2022, 07:05 AM
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What is the action like on Martin compared to Taylor? I heard the Taylor was low which I like, I also read the Martin was high, which wouldn't be ideal.
Action is completely adjustable and should be set for your playing style when you purchase it.

It's kinda like how far back the driver's seat in a car is.

You wouldn't not buy a car because the seat was too far back?
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Old 05-14-2022, 07:09 AM
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Action is completely adjustable and should be set for your playing style when you purchase it.

It's kinda like how far back the driver's seat in a car is.

You wouldn't not buy a car because the seat was too far back?
Ok, so it seems my options are the New GPC-16E, used GPCPA1 (this has some surface scratches and a slight crack in the lacquer on the back of the neck) or a just going for it with a new Taylor 814ce (more than I wanted to pay though).

I think I'd prefer Sitka spruce so those are my options. (I had the FG180 a few years ago and I think I preferred the sound of the other two guitars I had over that which were spruce)
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Old 05-14-2022, 02:40 PM
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I dropped by the local store and tried out a Taylor 814ce V-class recently. I was impressed with the bass response and balance. Give the 714 and 814 a try.

Bob
Agree with this assessment. I bought the 714ce Lutz spruce over rosewood and enjoying it for all around guitar.
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Old 05-14-2022, 03:50 PM
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The 814ce is certainly nice, but if looking to save a few bucks the 714ce is pretty good too.
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I'll third the 714 recommendation. Had my Bride with me when I auditioned a 714, 814 and 914. I was willing to pop for the best sounding one, we agreed it was the 714 which came home with me. Two years later and no regrets.

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The GPC Martin I had briefly was actually quite nice. I think it was the PA4. There was an issue with the electronics so I exchanged it. I think the shop had the electronics fixed and have for sale again—I’m tempted to buy it a second time.

I’m also a big fan of the 614ce. It doesn’t sound the way one expects a guitar with maple back and sides to sound. If you get a chance to try one, I would encourage you to do so.
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Old 05-15-2022, 04:52 AM
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What put me off the 714 is that it says in the description that "Lutz spruce is even louder than sitka", I'm not looking for something overly loud - one review even mentioned that it was harsh sounding.
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What put me off the 714 is that it says in the description that "Lutz spruce is even louder than sitka", I'm not looking for something overly loud - one review even mentioned that it was harsh sounding.
Personally, I don’t put a lot of weight into online reviews, and you need to take ad copy with a grain of salt. If they had said, “Lutz spruce sounds pretty much like sitka spruce, especially after we get done with it,” the copy wouldn’t have left much of an impression.

Is there a store (or stores) near you where you can try these and other guitars in person? If a picture is worth a thousand words, playing a guitar in person is worth ten thousand. The downside of ordering online is that it’s harder to try a bunch of guitars at one time.

If there is no place local, perhaps take a trip to Paris and head to the rue de Douai. There are at least ten guitar shops there, with a lot of guitars from Taylor, Furch, Eastman, etc. Just a thought.
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The guitars will likely sound slightly different one from the other, but that difference will be due to variations in the pieces of wood used, and not the finish.
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Tone wise? Not really I’ve tried both side by side - maybe that specific natural sounded slightly nicer, but not enough for me to keep from getting the WSB…Especially since that’s the one I had in mind going in. Wouldn’t have been upset with the natural at all though. Good looking nice sounding guitar.

I’d actually usually prefer a guitar that’s “louder” (and a bit different)…a Taylor dread intri d recently sounded anemic it was so comparatively quiet.
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Old 05-16-2022, 04:24 AM
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Looks like I'm down to two choices.

Taylor 714ce £2500
Martin GPC16E £1700
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I'm looking at a few used Martin's now instead.

OMC-16E Cherry for less than both the above
GPCPA1 for around £2000
Also found a GPC-28E that's quite expensive though

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Old 05-17-2022, 09:27 AM
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I've really been enjoying my GPC-15ME. You could probably find a good deal used. I've been surprised at how it isn't nearly has "dark" sounding as folks assume it is based on the Sipo construction. Martin did a good job on these.
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Old 05-17-2022, 09:31 AM
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I'm looking at a few used Martin's now instead.

OMC-16E Cherry for less than both the above
GPCPA1 for around £2000
Also found a GPC-28E that's quite expensive though
I don't know much about these guitars, but I reckon that the OMC would not be to your liking. Isn't it an OM w/ a cutaway? That would mean that it has a smaller body than the GA. If you're okay with not necessarily having a GA size it probably is a fine choice but if you want GA size then maybe you should look elsewhere.
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