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Old 12-04-2019, 01:35 PM
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I agree with redir that it's some "voodoo" in the wood, irrespective of species, and the luthier.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:59 PM
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Here's the thing!

Tonewood (like people) ain't "the best" 'cos it is rare or pretty.

A guitar is the sum of its parts, plus the time it was built, who built it, and how much it's been played, and how YOU play it.

You can have dull BRW and delightful EIR, Meh ADI or Euro, and great Sitka.

Holy grail tonewoods aren't really magic.
This is the way I feel about everything to do with guitars.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:06 PM
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For a reflective heavy wood set like Brazilian (I have never owned a back and side acoustic with this heralded wood). I like ebony for a round bass Low E that seems to have more clarity from the low mids.

For a tickle your ribcage I like 50's Gibsons.

Then there's a great build with good ol' maple that you can really sink your right hand into.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:35 PM
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Mahogany. Like on my D-18.

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Old 12-04-2019, 03:27 PM
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My three favorite wood combinations, in no particular order, are: (1) Mahogany with a spruce top; (2) Mahogany with a cedar top; (3) Mahogany with a mahogany top.

There may be a pattern here.
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:35 PM
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If I were to build one for myself it would be a double side Mahogany OM with a Lutz top.
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:41 PM
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I have not played a lot of great guitars but I have listened to the old Martins and they do sound amazing. What is the best sounding guitar you have played that didn't have Brazilian rosewood on it? I know Madagascar and cocobolo are closest in species but what do you guys think sounds the best? I think for this I am talking about the dreadnaught shape.
A 1934 long-scale OOO-18. Mahogany. Brazilian rosewood is great but "best" is too subjective a term.
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:33 PM
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Mahogany. Brazilian rosewood is great but "best" is too subjective a term.
Precisely. Well put.


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Old 12-04-2019, 08:57 PM
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You're presuming everyone likes the sound of BRW which, personally, I don't - or any other RW for that matter. I much prefer mahogany any day. I think I've owned one RW guitar in 60 years of playing and I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. The above goes for steel string - for classical I DO prefer RW.
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:09 AM
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I do feel like others here that mahogany is an 'ideal' wood in the same way as brazilian is, but it's at the other end of the tonal spectrum. Braz is overtones with crystal clarity + scooped mids, mahogany is crystal clarity on the fundamental, it has a real purity to it that can be breathtaking in its own way. If mahogany really does it for you, you might not be much of a braz fan and vice versa. It's sorta like asking if chocolate is better than vanilla.

I'm primarily an electric player, and IME braz = late 50s single coil strat pickup, mahogany = late 50s gibson PAF, if that makes any sense.

I'm also against the grain that Madi sits somewhere between EIR and braz... I hear Madi more sitting between mahogany and braz... it's a rosewood that produces a simpler, more woody/fundamental tone.

If you're looking for the best braz substitute, my belief is African Blackwood is the closest.
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Old 12-06-2019, 01:09 PM
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Why do I get the feeling this is going to turn into yet another mahogany vs rosewood thread!

For dreads I marginally prefer mahogany but on a small bodied guitar, rosewood blows it out the water IMHO.
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Old 12-06-2019, 01:16 PM
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Why do I get the feeling this is going to turn into yet another mahogany vs rosewood thread!
That's what most people know. No surprise that people comment on what they know.
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:03 AM
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Not sure. My 2 best sounding acoustics have Brazilian back/sides.
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Old 12-07-2019, 03:18 PM
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When asked what is the best wood from which to make guitars, long-time luthier Sergei de Jonge says, "The kind that grows on trees".
Makes sense. The best woods are those used on my favorite guitars.
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Old 12-07-2019, 10:19 PM
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I don't see where anyone has mentioned EIR. My Goodall Rosewood Standard is a wonderful guitar, sounds very similar to my 2 Larrivee Brazilian dreads, The Larrivees do have that glassy reverb, almost echo that the realiy good old Martin Brazilians I have played also have. Jim Olson makes most of his SJ's with EIR.
Olson and Goodall are at the top of their game and most anything they make sounds fantastic, but they are both fans of EIR.
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