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How can I tell if I’m building muscle memory or doing damage and headed for carpal
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Today my guitar teacher warned me about this. He said when he was my age [37] he developed really bad carpal tunnel from doing too many Barr chords. How can I tell a ‘healthy’ muscle build vs. doing something harmful to my hand/wrist/arm? Any suggestions? Thanks! |
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One drunken night, a couple of friends and I examined what musical instruments didn't potentially damage the human body. we couldn't think of one.
Playing guitar isn't a natural function of our arms and hands, but we will do it anyway. I suggest that you take advice about posture, and whenever your hands, wrists or wherever start to hurt, stop and examine how you might obviate it. On barre chords - remember that basic major and minor chords shapes duplicate up to three notes - consider playing just the three important ones.
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What was the context of the warning? Did he explain/demonstrate poor technique or habits that could lead to such an injury?
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Knock on wood, I could develop Carpal tunnel syndrome any day now, but the reality is that I'm 67 and I've earned my living for most of my adult life (and still) working with my hands involving repetitive motions, and other than a little bit of trigger finger in my fretting pinky I'm fine.
My wife, on the other hand, is facing Carpal tunnel surgery next month. The amount of repetitive hand work and wrist over extension she has endured over her working life is minimal compared to my own. My takeaway is that our own personal anatomies and health conditions have far more to do with our propensity to develop the syndrome than a single aggravating factor like fretting a guitar. Of course I am not a physician, so by all means research the condition for yourself, and go to a doctor if you experience any symptoms. Otherwise, build your muscle memory with confidence. |
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Exercise and warm up your hands and muscles properly before you start practise. You won't find an athlete running a 100 yard sprint and risking injury without warming up first, and our hands are no different in that regard.
https://www.guitarplayer.com/techniq...ay-even-better
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I started a thread a while ago about guitar related workouts and stretches. Not sure why it got moved to open mic, but there may be some useful stuff in it for you:
https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...79#post6210379 |
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Your best defense may be to check your action and see if you need to lower it .
a set up is not that exspensive and easier on the hands.
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Best, Jayne |
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Pain that doesn't go away soon after you stop playing is generally an indication of a level of stress or damage that your body is unable to mitigate. But even this can be repaired by taking immediate action to rest/repair.
Things like carpal issues develop after hundreds or thousands of these little injuries. It is far too easy to ignore these until they add up to a chronic problem. If you feel pain when you're not playing, this is a red flag for an injury that is already developing and that will only become worse without corrective action. The advice to warm up is essential. I would suggest you consider a quick cool down as well, especially after a strenuous practice session.
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A good guitar setup really saves your hands.
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I suppose you could poke yourself in the eye with the stick. |
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I think for the most part your body does a good job telling you when you’re overdoing it. If you start to feel soreness, stop. Carpal tunnel isn’t the only potential problem. You can get a repetitive stress soft tissue injury in your fingers, and they can take quite a long time to heal.
Stretch your hands and fingers before playing and listen to your body.
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The carpal tunnel is the structure that the tendons on the flexor side of your forearm pass through. Only one nerve passes through the carpal tunnel along with the flexor tendons - the median nerve. If the anatomy of the carpal tunnel is too small and if the tendons become scarred or inflamed the space may not be enough and the nerve can become compressed. The pain and numbness (and in the worst cases muscle atrophy) that results affects the thumb, index and middle digits along with half of the ring finger. In my experience, other factors can also influence symptoms. Irritation, facilitation or compression of the median nerve anywhere along it’s course can contribute as well as dysfunction in the mechanical structures of the neck, rotator cuff, forearm and wrist. Many simpler problems can mimic some of the symptoms of carpal tunnel syndrome. Ergonomics, posture, warm-up, set-up of the instrument, stretches and exercises can all help to mitigate the risk of developing problems. See a professional for help.
I’ve played for 40 years. I have had occasional median nerve symptoms, but have always managed to solve them without surgery. Advances in the surgical techniques have made recovery much more straightforward than it used to be - if and when it ever comes to that.
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