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i don't know the answer to that yet but i went ahead and ordered one under $1k (in fact less than half that) sight unseen to try it out. i'm sure it's not as great as the high end market or cornered names in the market but for me worth a try to get my feet wet in res market.
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I bought a "Rogue" brass-bodied resonator from Musician's Friend for a little over 300 bucks.
Terrific bargain IMO... Thing looks good, sounds good.... I have no complaints. I even did a little review on YouTube.... for some reason, the URLwill not pull up on my new tablet, but you can just enter "Rogue brass-bodied resonator review and it should pop up. |
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I didn't once say that mine sounded as good a National, I said that the sound surprised the National owners.
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Seriously though. Yeah, you didn't go there. I'm just so used to it, I colored what you wrote with my past experience. I would have responded sooner, but my computer died, and I'm typing on a used National's worth of new Apple hardware
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Apology? None needed ( I thought the "please" covered that part but the written word doesn't always carry the writers emotion). I certainly wasn't trying for a derogatory comment. But...feel free to curse my computer...all of a sudden, out of the blue...my logon password was no good this morning...it took me over four hours to straighten it out...I had to re-load a previous backup to get everying up & running. I'd be more than happy with a National...they have no Logon Screen!
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Hi, I hope this doesn't sound a bit null but why don't you convert a good acoustic with a general kit and better cones, I know this will set the purists spinning but why not??-- just a question |
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Edited to add, I'd LOVE to see a converted lower end Ovation or Applause. Because I don't get the Ovation hate. And I think a melding of the two would be the best ever rough and tumble guitar for busking and campfire use. Leave the good ones alone.
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Hi, I have a 2005 National Style "O" Deluxe. Great out of the box. no issues. - If I strummed it hard here in the UK you might hear it where you are.
I hadn't heard of "Hot Rod Steel Guitars. (steel guitars? - nope they are resonators!) Anyway I watched two videos on the "Learn" part of their website. Seems that the guy there is saying that they import cheap far eastern units and then do all sorts of things short of rebuilding them to make them work. Is that "hot-rodding"? I dunno, but it seems a little strange to me. Prices seem to range from $800 to $1000 for cleaned up, set up pieces that you might buy with an AXL or Johnson name on the headstock for half that. How mush are used National going for? A Delphi is their cheapest "steel" bodied model and has "the" sound AND projects well and should be trouble free, and for a little more. This is a basic tuition video by my friend Adam Franklin, but it shows the tone of the Delphi pretty well : (I can't add a youtube thing on edit) - see next mail. |
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That is standard Ebay derived pricing. Private pricing can be all over the place. I picked up an older Style N, before they went to german silver so standard yellow brass, for $850 with a K&K passive built in. No clouding, no pitting in the finish, but it looked like a 12 year old well played nickel national would. Shiny from across the room, but a little dull up close.
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I can chime in here. I love resonators I play delta style and have owned a few imports. I can say that if you have an import with a good set-up and saddle you can make great music with them. They wont explode or fall aprt in front of a crowd.
That being said Mr Mill's post certainly applies to me I am one of those folks that has moved up to a national via imports. I have an estralita and I wont look back. My friend that I play with owns a Style o and another friend of mine has a Delphi and it's also a great guitar and he wont look back either. I do have a few comments on the imports based on my experiences during the learning process. The Johnson single cone was my first, a decent build however not very loud but it had no rattles or buzzing. I did not have to send it for a set up. it played pretty good It did spoil me with 14 frets though. an OK neck a little thin. and heavy in the bout so I had to play it classical style or it would try to fall off my right knee The Johnson Tricone I tried in a store was absolute garbage lots of rattles and I hated the feel of it. The hound dog I tried in the store was a decent build but quiet as a mouse in fact I was suprised as to how quiet it was. Nice thicker neck though The hotrod single cone I had was a decent player and had a decent tone but I hated the neck it felt like the johnson which was 400 dollars cheaper Now the Regal RC-1 was my second favorite. A very nice solid feel to it. great tone great volume. I actually drew a crowd in GC when I tried it. A cranked it to open E and it sang really really nice. for 400 bucks used it was a bargain. narrow nut though like the johnson My favorite import thus far is the Gretch bobtail. Great tone GREAT V NECK with wide spacing and well built, absolutely loved it. In fact I still own it and it's for sale.. If I never played a national I would not know a better resonator and I would not have it up on fleabay. It has a close feeling to the nice V-necks of the Nationals. I am NOT comparing it to a national at all, however the neck and playability is my favorite of the imports. Now I did almost buy a US made hawain DOBRO for 1100 all metal, it sounded great it was a 14 fret. However the national is a better instrument with sweeeeet soft v necks Ive never played a republic. that Highway model looks pretty slick though I now own a National and there is a difference in tone, feel, especially responsiveness and they are easier to play. BUT to me there are plenty of great imports out there just get a good set up and put some heavy strings on them. Good luck Tom
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I haven't read the entire thread, but if it hasn't been mentioned yet, you should read about Hot Rod Steel here before you do business with them..
http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/f...d.php?t=364084 Hope you find a good one. |
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Sort of an insult thread, starting out with premise of National players being snobs. Not a great way to solicit great unbiased advice. But I digress….
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and Hi biz very well said and good for your. You will of course upset the Gibson etc gang, but how many people really think that playing a Gibs0n will make them a better player .. now be careful before you answer! Watch the old blues and grass players that made the music so famous in the late 1800s and early 1900s. If you have time to research this you will find that most resonators were made from alloy based saucepans and kettles, bent ,shaped and beaten, and what was the sound they produced... absolutely amazing I guess its horses for courses and the depth of your wallet!! |