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Old 01-30-2013, 11:01 PM
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Oh my goodness! I got my headphones and have been at it for 2 hours. Absolutely amazing the difference having a nice set of headphones (my first). A bit frustrated with the Zoom H2 as capturing both vocals and guitar is not easily done. I have reset the height of my tripod many times too. I can feel three microphones and the Apogee Duet in my future happening a lot sooner than I thought.

And the improvement in playing and my vocals is significant. Even if you are a newbie, record yourself. And its really true. Play a song to death, until your fingers move on their own.

The Zoom is an excellent recorder and I will fiddle with it more this week. But now I truly understand the addiction with equipment that I observe on this forum. But I really want that cool stereo effect with two mics on the guitar, and a really nice mic for vocals.
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Well unfortunately the duet only has two mic inputs...

BUT, four years later I still love recording like I did the first day.
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Haha! You're hooked! Congratulations
Recording is a blast!
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"Well unfortunately the duet only has two mic inputs..."

....... let me introduce you to your next piece of equipment...meet Mr. Mixer!
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"Well unfortunately the duet only has two mic inputs..."

....... let me introduce you to your next piece of equipment...meet Mr. Mixer!
Eh........... Been down that road. Never want to again.
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I know the Apogee gets a lot of praise, and I'm sure it's well deserved. But, I also wanted more than two inputs, so I just purchased a MOTU 4-Pre, and I am absolutely thrilled with it. Running into my MacBook Pro and Garageband and it all works together seamlessly. Absolutely no issues and I am really pleased with the quality of the throughput. I'm certainly no audiophile, but for me, this was the perfect choice. Mike
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I know the Apogee gets a lot of praise, and I'm sure it's well deserved. But, I also wanted more than two inputs, so I just purchased a MOTU 4-Pre, and I am absolutely thrilled with it. Running into my MacBook Pro and Garageband and it all works together seamlessly. Absolutely no issues and I am really pleased with the quality of the throughput. I'm certainly no audiophile, but for me, this was the perfect choice. Mike
Hey Mike,
I've been considering the MOTU 4PRE as a step in upgrading my current recording equipment. From looking at the literature it seems it could be a drop in to replace my current preamps (not using its ADC), could do some limited live mixing, and could be a preamp/ADC if I move to a computer based recorder. This all looks good in their sales literature, but I haven't been able to find a manual so I could look into its limitations, such as what are the options for data sent using USB (can it send 4 channels from its inputs as well as mixed stereo channels, etc). Are you using the USB or the firewire interface?
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Hey Mike,
I've been considering the MOTU 4PRE as a step in upgrading my current recording equipment. From looking at the literature it seems it could be a drop in to replace my current preamps (not using its ADC), could do some limited live mixing, and could be a preamp/ADC if I move to a computer based recorder. This all looks good in their sales literature, but I haven't been able to find a manual so I could look into its limitations, such as what are the options for data sent using USB (can it send 4 channels from its inputs as well as mixed stereo channels, etc). Are you using the USB or the firewire interface?
We use a Motu 828 in my department for running 8 channel surround sound and the possibilities are basically limitless. The 4PRE can send 4 channels from its inputs via USB and if I'm understanding your use of "mixed stereo" correctly, that's up to your DAW.

I honestly prefer working with the Apogee stuff and I think it sounds better (maybe because I use it all the time and can get better results) but the Motu is good quality and a heck of a lot cheaper.
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Hey Mike,
I've been considering the MOTU 4PRE as a step in upgrading my current recording equipment. From looking at the literature it seems it could be a drop in to replace my current preamps (not using its ADC), could do some limited live mixing, and could be a preamp/ADC if I move to a computer based recorder. This all looks good in their sales literature, but I haven't been able to find a manual so I could look into its limitations, such as what are the options for data sent using USB (can it send 4 channels from its inputs as well as mixed stereo channels, etc). Are you using the USB or the firewire interface?
Chuck, I've only been working with it for a few days, so only worked some basic stuff. I'm going in with USB and have had zero issues. From what I've seen and done it should be able to do all that you mentioned. It is incredibly easy to use either from the screen mixer or on the unit itself. I've run mono mics, stereo combinations into multi track recording and worked great. It has a lot of tools I haven't gotten into yet, but as a preamp, mixer and audio input with 4 inputs for around $450 it's pretty darn nice. Mike
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I absolutely agree! I use a Zoom H4N with two Samson mics on a boom. It works quite well for capturing the guitar with two mics and I use the Zoom internal mics for voice. I have been having a blast figuring it all out. I am buying some decent near-field monitors this weekend then I'll use the M50 headphones for final edits.

I really think I have found my new favorite hobby!

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Oh my goodness! I got my headphones and have been at it for 2 hours. Absolutely amazing the difference having a nice set of headphones (my first). A bit frustrated with the Zoom H2 as capturing both vocals and guitar is not easily done. I have reset the height of my tripod many times too. I can feel three microphones and the Apogee Duet in my future happening a lot sooner than I thought.

And the improvement in playing and my vocals is significant. Even if you are a newbie, record yourself. And its really true. Play a song to death, until your fingers move on their own.

The Zoom is an excellent recorder and I will fiddle with it more this week. But now I truly understand the addiction with equipment that I observe on this forum. But I really want that cool stereo effect with two mics on the guitar, and a really nice mic for vocals.
Hi Lisa,
I agree that home recording can be a lot of fun, useful, and present some real challenges. The price/performance for entry level equipment is amazing. You talked about vocal and guitar recording difficulties; do you need to record them at the same time? (I believe you probably do with the H2) I'm not a singer, so it's a lot easier to optimize the micing techniques just for the guitar. When I've done a little bit of recording with my wife (who is the singer), I used my Zoom H4, recorded the guitar, then played that back for her as we recorded her vocals. Later the guitar and vocals tracks were mixed. That worked well for what we were doing.
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Eh........... Been down that road. Never want to again.
I concur, not a good idea.
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