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While comparing Zoom H4n Pro to the Zoom H6 clearly indicates that the H6 has a much "richer" features list, what I can not determine through any of my research is the actual quality of the sound when recording an acoustic guitar. Straight out of the box(es), does the H6 reproduce the acoustic sound better than the H4n? Is the extra cost of the H6 worth it when my main goal is to use it for recording acoustic guitar??
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Capturing sound digitally, the main factors are the microphone and the A-D converters. I'm guessing that the A-D converters are the same in all the Zoom models. So if you use external mics, the sound captured will be exactly the same.
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I personally prefer the H5 over the H4n pro. I like the mounted individual level controls, and the ability to use the optional attachments...although the pre amps are supposed to be the same.
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Perhaps this is true for a handheld digital recorder, but a lot of us capture sound digitally using microphones, a mic preamp, and converters into a DAW. IMO the mic preamp plays a major role in the sound. Last edited by DukeX; 08-08-2018 at 12:29 PM. Reason: Clarification |
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I use the internal mid side mics. You can check out sample recordings by clicking the link in my signature.
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Here's a solo guitar example that I posted here quite a while back as a blind test. I know that take B is the Zoom H6 with the internal XY mics (obvious because the mic placement is different). The other 2 (a or c) are 1) the Zoom with external mics, and 2) the same mics thru a Great River preamp/Cranesong HEDD A/D, and RME AES-32 interface, so a significant difference in the preamp and A/D converter quality. I'd have to look up which is which, (a or c). It's not obvious to me from listening now. Three different performances, of course, so there are minor variations in sound due to that.
This is just guitar, recording vocals at the same time as the guitar is a whole different topic, and not so much specific to the Zoom, more of a question of mic placement and other techniques for balancing the two. Fran Guidry has a nice demo or two on his homebrew music page.
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Rode Nt1a connected to m-Audio Duo Pre-amp (at least 10 years old) Apogee Mic connected to iPad Edirol by Roland. I can setup all 3 to record at the same time and you'd be hard pressed to tell which was record using what equipment. Not that there isn't a difference but none stand out as a good acoustic recording. |
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You're correct, of course. I would assume the Zooms all have the same preamps as well as converters.
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I must admit, in the right hands, these Zooms are very impressive for recording acoustic guitar.
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https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=359079 A is the Zoom with external mics, C is Great River+Cranesong+RME, so you preferred the preamp and converters in the Zoom to the pricey chain.
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BTW, I just read the original thread I posted, and I was remembering wrong about this. These 3 recordings were done simultaneously, so all three are the same performance. Any differences, therefore are presumably due to the gear or mic placement - even with the spaced pairs (A and C) the mics are necessarily moved by an inch or so, in order to have two pairs of mics setup.
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