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I just have one question, if the Authentics dont have a truss rod at all, what if I put on 13's on it? I know the neck wont probably give away from the string tension right away, but what about in the long run?
I tried it a few weeks ago and it completely blew me away, too rich for my blood right now, too rich in any lifetime, but I can save up for it I thought.. but having no truss rod is making me think twice.
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If you can live with the neck profile the OM-18 Authentic VTS is a great mid size guitar. I've owned two...took me that long to realize I couldn't deal with the "heel & barrel" neck. But...if you're good with it I believe it's one of the better offerings to be had. Of course that's my 2 cents. Have owned Collings OM-1 and OM-2H (both with the deep body option) and the latter was much better in my opinion. Had a Bourgeoise JOMC and OMS but neither lasted? I will say I am a Martin fan but have a CS Collings D-1 with Sitka thermo cured top that's amazing. Just not a big fan of their OM's. But then again...I'm a dyed it the wool dread guy. So I may not be the right person to ask?
I hope you finds what suits you. best of luck!
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Here is mine below. This is an excellent recording of what it really sounds like. The fun really gets going around the 1:30 - 3:00 minute mark. Wear good headphones for best results...
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I have owned a Collings OM2HG (G for German Spruce top) and in my quest to find my perfect OM, I have played many Martin Authentics (18 and 28) and a few Santa Cruz OMs (both reg. OMs and OM/PWs).
I sold the Collings for exactly the reasons Brencat cites; the tone was absolutely ethereal - but I too found it was "annoyingly sensitive to less than perfect technique, and lacked bass response." No fault of the guitar - the problem was with the player. Anyway, when all was said and done, I ended up with a Huss & Dalton Custom TOM-M. The custom elements are an Italian spruce top and short scale. Mostly I chose it because, while it has a very sweet, musical voice and ring to it,the H&D is a lot "earthier" than the Collings, and the bass is more solid and the trebles fatter. Also, while I like the Authentics very much (esp. the bass and growl), the neck profile of the H&D was absolutely perfect for me - and even as a custom order, it was much cheaper than a new Martin Authentic. As far as Santa Cruz OMs go... I just don't connect. Not sure why. Partly it has to do with the mod V neck (my Huss & Dalton has a perfect medium C neck) and partly... I just haven't been inspired by one (yet). I have never played a Bourgeois guitar and I'm dying to try one. Every time I hear one recorded well, or live, I really like the tone. if you're ever in New York City, bring your Bourgeois and we can spend an afternoon swapping guitars! |
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Just had to comment that this thread has been both extremely helpful as someone who plans to add an OM from one of the aforementioned builders... as well as a real "gas-burner", if ya know what I mean.
Thanks very much for everyone's thoughtful reviews and experiences. Just fantastic. And I just gotta say it: Bren, that Goodall OM is just about as close to a holy grail guitar as I can possibly imagine. "Wow". From someone who surprisingly hasn't played that many OM's, period, from any builder.. thank you! It may be about a year or so, but I will definitely be adding one of these, and these posts are very thought-provoking. Scott
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Bear in mind that the TROM is ~ 4" deep at the neck block and ~ 4.25" deep at the tail. Meanwhile, a typical OM from Santa Cruz and Martin is ~ 3.25" at the neck and ~ 4.125" at the tail. The TROM's extra depth no doubt contributes to that huge bass response you hear, but Goodall also does things a bit differently with the bracing too. Although very expensive when new, Goodalls bought on the secondary market are a bargain. Fort Bragg made Goodalls (2009+) sell for ~ 50% of current MSRP, while the Kona HI built ones (<2009) can be had for a touch under that.
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