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Old 07-02-2021, 01:07 AM
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Why didn't you buy the Breedlove??
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Old 07-02-2021, 01:10 AM
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Taylor is the closest thing to what a "worship music tone" might be.
I think this is changing though. I’m starting to see a lot more people playing Martin’s. The brightness of the Taylor’s helps cut through the band but in my experience our techs have always had to do more mixing with Taylor’s vs smaller adjustments with Martin’s to get the tone right! Could be a PNW thing though!
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:20 AM
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Having led worship off and on for quite some time, I get not wanting to play a dread all the time. The OM has become the go-to for me in that area. With a K&K, direct into the board and a capable sound man, they are fantastic. I’d check out some Larrivee mahogany models (OM-03 or OM-40) and see what you think.

Also, the 15 series Martin’s are amazing…and the 00 might be the best of the bunch. Worth a look.

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Old 07-02-2021, 08:46 AM
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Yup realized it was a massive change. Sounded better in my head. Might grab the Breedlove but I’m still looking. I spent so much $ on my D18 that I want to find something a little more affordable. The Martin 000-15M was pretty good and looked briefly into the basic Taylor 214 dlx but I just can’t do the brightness on those for some reason.
I'd tell you to look at Furch as well, that's what I ended up with!

Here is their version of the 214 Taylor: https://reverb.com/item/38798017-fur...y-2020-natural
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Old 07-03-2021, 06:19 AM
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I think this is changing though. I’m starting to see a lot more people playing Martin’s. The brightness of the Taylor’s helps cut through the band but in my experience our techs have always had to do more mixing with Taylor’s vs smaller adjustments with Martin’s to get the tone right! Could be a PNW thing though!

Regardless of the fact that I live in a small 3 million people island, Martin guitars have never been that popular among acoustic guitarists in Puerto Rico, and especially with church players. Taylor is the go-to choice among church players and many other players. I'd even say Gibson is as popular among acoustic players (or even more) than Martin. Maybe it's a weather thing.
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Old 07-03-2021, 06:29 AM
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Yep, "worship music tone" is a thing. You don't last long in that kind of setting by bucking convention.
Exactly. Cuz of course you can't play all those sus2, add 6, slash this or that chords on anything OTHER than a Taylor.
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Old 07-03-2021, 06:31 AM
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Exactly. Cuz of course you can't play all those sus2, add 6, slash this or that chords on anything OTHER than a Taylor.
Add6? What's that?
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Old 07-03-2021, 08:35 AM
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Add6? What's that?
For example, a C6 would add the A note to the C major triad since the A (note) is the sixth note in the C major scale.
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Old 07-03-2021, 06:27 PM
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Yep, "worship music tone" is a thing. You don't last long in that kind of setting by bucking convention.
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For example, a C6 would add the A note to the C major triad since the A (note) is the sixth note in the C major scale.
Well, that's a C6, not a C(add6), and if you turn it around, it'd be a minor 7th. There's not such a thing as an "add6."
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Well, that's a C6, not a C(add6), and if you turn it around, it'd be a minor 7th. There's not such a thing as an "add6."
Well, okay, yes. After a Bachelor's in Theory, then 4 graduate years at the University of California at Santa Barbara in Theory before switching and completing my MA in Ethnomusicology, yes, you caught me! There's "not such a thing" as an add6.

I'm very sorry and humbly apologize.

Now, explain what you mean by "if you turn it around" it becomes a minor 7th?

Oh, I think you mean if you make a different note the ROOT, then THAT chord is a minor 7th.

We must ALL keep our terminology squeaky clean, don't you think?
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Old 07-04-2021, 06:30 AM
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Well, that's a C6, not a C(add6), and if you turn it around, it'd be a minor 7th. There's not such a thing as an "add6."
Six of one, half dozen of the other. Yes, if you put the A as the root, you get an Am7 but that sounds quite a bit different than a C6 even though they are the same notes.
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I've led Jewish worship at our synagogue with the GS-Mini. Just in a solo setting (we don't do the big "rock" band thing there) but it works fine.
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As a former worship leader I am squarely in the camp of “any quality acoustic guitar with a reliable pickup and an equally reliable and proficient person on the sound board” is sufficient. For the purposes of leading worship, the brand and model of acoustic electric guitar is far down on my list of priorities.
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Old 07-04-2021, 11:59 AM
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... it'd be a minor 7th.
Yes, it would be a minor 7th. And as for which minor 7th, it would be Am7.
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