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Old 08-29-2013, 04:24 AM
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Default Holy Grail of Archtops?

Which one do you believe is the Holy Grail?
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Old 08-29-2013, 04:41 AM
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There is no one answer, of course. If we stick to acoustic only archtops, the original 16" Gibson L-5 is my first choice. For electric, a cutaway D'Angelico New Yorker with a floating DeArmond 1100 wouldn't be too shabby. Or maybe a 1939 Gibson Super 400N with the same pickup. If we get into celebrity guitars, Wes Montgomery's L-5 would be kinda nice (but I'd still prefer Eddie Lang's circa 1929 L-5!).
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:08 AM
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...If we get into celebrity guitars, Wes Montgomery's L-5 would be kinda nice...
Played that one a few years ago...

My bucket list:

1940 D'Angelico New Yorker (natural)
1941 Epiphone Emperor Soloist
1939 Gibson Super 400PN
1923 Gibson "Loar" L-5
1949 Gretsch Synchromatic 400 (natural/tortoise binding)
1960-66 Guild Artist Award 18"
1950 Stromberg Master 400 cutaway

Choose one - if you can...
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:40 AM
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Collings 16", round holed L-4s = way better than the ever popular L-00s and Nick Lucas guitars; L-5, any walnut carved Epiphone. I am going to go with Collings.
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:19 PM
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D'Angelico
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Old 08-29-2013, 04:03 PM
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Stromberg Master 400.
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Default It depends...

On the player, their style of play...

Assuming we're talking acoustic (being the nature of the forum).

Do you play rhythm in a band in high volume situation? Perhaps a parallel braced, non-cutaway, 3-1/2" deep, 18" lower bout with a long scale instrument is the ticket. Perhaps you play solo guitar, in quiter environment and a smaller, x-braced instrument with a cutaway and a shorter scale is your "holly grail"?

The popular answer would be something made by John D'Angelico or Jimmy D'Aquisto. I honestly feel that we live in an age where there are many talented Archtop luthiers that will craft your "holy grail". For me, I can't imagine being happier with an Archtop than with what I have.





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Old 08-29-2013, 06:17 PM
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I already own mine. It's got my name inlaid on the head stock.
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The instruments being built by John Monteleone are some of the most expensive and revered right now. I've had the pleasure of visiting Monteleone's shop and playing a few of his guitars; wow is about the only word to describe them...

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I'd personally go for one of Ken Parker's...

just astonishing...
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Ken Parker wins, absolutely cutting edge.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:58 PM
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If you're going for tone, it's either a D'Angelico Excel or an early Gibson L-5.
If you're going for volume, it's a Stromberg Master 400.
For a combination of the two, it's probably the Gibson Super 400 (without the pickups).
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Played that one a few years ago...

My bucket list:

1940 D'Angelico New Yorker (natural)
1941 Epiphone Emperor Soloist
1939 Gibson Super 400PN
1923 Gibson "Loar" L-5
1949 Gretsch Synchromatic 400 (natural/tortoise binding)
1960-66 Guild Artist Award 18"
1950 Stromberg Master 400 cutaway

Choose one - if you can...
Did you play it at Mandolin Brothers? I had the good fortune to do so. Stan took a photo of me playing it; I've gotta find that pic...
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Did you play it at Mandolin Brothers? I had the good fortune to do so. Stan took a photo of me playing it; I've gotta find that pic...
Same one; sweet guitar both acoustic and plugged, and it kinda punches a 747-sized hole in the current '1-3/4" or nothing' neck width argument...
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Same one; sweet guitar both acoustic and plugged, and it kinda punches a 747-sized hole in the current '1-3/4" or nothing' neck width argument...
Wider or narrower?
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