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I presume you jot down the simple melody lines first and then add to it. I have pages and pages and pages of stuff I've written, but it's mostely just bits. The bits seldom turn into something longer. Though while I as working on some triads the other day, a nice melody happened, and four triads connected together, then I played it low and high. Sounds quite nice. I recorded something for the first time two weeks ago. Some big mistakes, as I was nervous, but the guitar didn't sound half bad. First time I had heard the Walker recorded. thanks for your time, Stuart |
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best, Stuart. |
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So there's a "crowd" that practices this heinous act, is there? Seriously, I think that's way over the top. Just because we adapt one itzy-bitzy section so that it becomes more playayble does not mean that we "will never progress". Of course we will! That's just one section and we'll have learned a lot in mastering the rest of the song. I would agree, though, that if something is difficult, we should push ourselves to learn it, but if it's something that is taking an inordinate amount of time, it's probably beyond our abilities at this moment. We could always tackle it in the future in the unlikely event that it ever seems necessary.
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Of course you will substitute your own version when difficult part arrives but ONLY if it's taking you whole lot of time and your skill level is so far behind. But, that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to a group that intentionally does this all the time from being lazy enough to learn it properly. I was guilty of it a while back. I then realized that it's only me that I'm fooling. None of my songs sounded smooth and complete. There was always something missing that I couldn't put my finger on. Now I know what it was and I'm really happy with songs that I learn.
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What you often find out when you are learning a new tune just from an audio (less frequent these days with all the videos around) is that you make the piece harder to play the the original artist did by using the wrong fretting and/or fingering. So in this case applying Oscam's razor may be the totally correct thing to do.
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Funny you mention The Entertainer but I've also put it off (Chet Atkins style) when I started learning fingerstyle. It was just way beyond my skills. I think I'm ready now, and as soon as I'm done with Tommy Emmanuel mania I will tackle it again. I also changed the way Tommy plays one part in Borsalino. I just found the easier way, and it sounded the same. But every once in a while I will do it exactly the way he plays it just to get my chops going and it's also good stretching exercise. As I get older I noticed that I have less tolerance for cheating and more desire to complete things.
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Big fan of Occam's Razor as well
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As for me, jotting would take too long and interfere with my creativity. I find it easier to spin around and fire up the H2 on my table behind my SoundSeat, and record some extended noodling without breaking my creative rhythm. When I'm being creative, I think best with my instrument, not with pencil/paper. I compose quicker and better with just the guitar and my voice...and then I can worry about extending the fragments by either combining some fragments into a song, or adding more after listening to what inspiration I had to begin with...all later. And I'm still developing arrangements of songs I started years ago...as my skills improve, some of my ancient arrangements benefit from the improvements too... |
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I do almost always end up writing my stuff out before it's "done", it provides another way to visualize it, smooth out any rough edges and so on. There's a cool thing that I find happens with some tunes, where one minute I'm trying to figure how how the piece should go, and suddenly the tune "exists", and there's no longer any question. It's as if the tune exists in its own right, without me having had much to do with it. For better or worse, that's how the tune goes. Writing it out seems to help get the tune to that stage. Maybe it's a "its there in black and white, it's must be true", kind of thing :-)
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