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Old 01-05-2021, 04:13 PM
Spadina501 Spadina501 is offline
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Default Journey OF660 - internal finish quality

Hello Journey OF660 owners.

How’s the finish inside your guitar? Looking inside the sound hole of mine,
It’s very rough - is yours polished smooth or is this a characteristic of these guitars?
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Old 01-05-2021, 04:46 PM
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The inside of mine is fairly rough....still sounds pretty good though
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Old 01-05-2021, 05:06 PM
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mine is very rough
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Old 01-05-2021, 07:12 PM
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I just picked up an RT660 and it also is a fairly rough finish inside looks like an added layer of something that has almost a sandpaper consistency on top of the actual carbon fiber but not in all areas of the interior
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Old 01-05-2021, 10:07 PM
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You don't see the weave on the inside of Journey instruments like you do on Emerald or RainSong guitars. They also use a slightly different look for the weave on the back sides and neck (carbon/ fiberglass hybrid).

I would place my bets on the fact that this is a cost saving measure to introduce a full CF travel guitar to the market at substantial savings.
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Old 01-06-2021, 03:04 PM
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Actually you can see the weave in some areas. There also appears to be a paint of some kind over top

See photos inside of rt660
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Old 01-06-2021, 05:01 PM
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We mostly see the outside, and I'm sure that is where they put most of their effort. Except for those times when I'm deliberately looking inside, noticing the inner surface is fairly infrequent.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:09 PM
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Earl I couldn't agree more. As I said on my new guitar post so far I am quite happy with mine I will also add that mine was listed as bstock as well so I don't know if this is the same for the inside but they list "minor cosmetics" as part of the qualifications for bstock.

I also needed to use a flash and a lot of light to see what you see in the picture.


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We mostly see the outside, and I'm sure that is where they put most of their effort. Except for those times when I'm deliberately looking inside, noticing the inner surface is fairly infrequent.

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Old 01-06-2021, 06:48 PM
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The only time I look inside any of my guitars is to change a battery or fix something. It this like wanting to know how the sausage is made, or dating the hot chick and you want to see her dental Xrays?
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:15 PM
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I personally like that rough finish look. It reminds me of my very first motorcycle with two stroke 175 Kawasaki that I crashed so much it was just first prime coated dark grey.

If you look deeper, you will even notice Hershey kisses hanging off the soundboard: Do not eat them. They are there to make your guitar sound sweeter.^^

BTW, I try not to unbolt the neck if possible but when it must be done, it helps to mark where the strings sit on the saddle after making sure the string to string spacing is adjusted correctly. Also keep on eye on the endpins as you try to lock in. They tend to crawl out of the holes.

Anyhow, Welcome to OF660ers! You will never be without a guitar no matter where!!


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Old 01-09-2021, 08:41 AM
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Wouldn't a rough back on the inside in theory absorb the reflected vibrations from the top?
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:31 AM
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Not really - that effect is greatly over estimated. The mechanism at work is diffusion (scattering) not actual absorption into the fibers saturated with resin. If the surface irregularities total 1/16" deep then the wavelength that corresponds is a frequency of 18,080 Hz. Most adults (and many teens) cannot hear frequencies that high. Any wavelength / frequency lower than the cutoff effectively sees a flat smooth plate.

The note on the 19th fret of the treble e string is 988 Hz. Even harmonics or overtones of that note are within that "roughness" cutoff frequency.
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Old 01-10-2021, 08:16 AM
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Mine is unfinished inside, but not offensive. I picked one of these up used off Reverb for a campfire beater/travel guitar. The seller had installed a pickguard, which may or may not have effected the tone; don't know. I just had my luthier lower the saddle and set it up. I very rarely take the neck off. I really enjoy this little instrument. Sounds great!
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