JBL Eon One Compact - S1 Pro copy?

[Per Burström]

https://www.jblpro.com/www/news/pres...able-pa-system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL8HQkYG8KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tQ5fPcR_-Y

[Captain Jim]

Sure looks like it. If you can't innovate, imitate.

Oh, and make it just a lttle cheaper. I'll stay with the original.

[Marty C]

I guess they have been reading our post on the Bose forum for future product updates and request. The main one was the app control and expanded EQ/effects. Otherwise, they copied the form and fit.

[necrome]

The form factor is the same but it doesn't have the articulated "mini-array" in front of the woofer. Think it'll sound less good over long distances? Seems like just a basic 8" woofer PA with a barebones digital mixer

[wood nacho]

Very interesting! Just a 8" woofer? Hmm, concerning. Diggin the phantom power option though.

Edit: Upon further research, there IS a 1" tweeter on the unit.

[Cuki79]

Let's embbed the videos

[Cuki79]

It has a "gain" setting for each channel (although it is probably a digital gain).

From what I see on the pannel, I guess that in "Mix mode", the pots control the channel volume (therefore the numbers on the right) and in "Channel mode" you get to control gain and EQ...

[Cuki79]

Brand             JBL                       Bose            Fishman        Laney
Model name        eon one compact           S1 pro          Mini charge    AH4x4
Listprice         $549                      $599            $499           -
Weight            17.6 lbs                  15.5 lbs        21.2 lbs       14.3 lbs
Weight            8 Kg                      7 Kg            9.6 Kg         6.5 Kg
SPL/sensitivity   -                         -               -              97dB/W/m
maxSPL            112dB                     109dB           108dB          117dB
Power             120w                      103dB           60Wrms         35Wrms
XLR               2 combos                  2 combos                       2 combos
InstInput         1 Hi-Z                    2 combos                       2 combos
MonoLines         stereo                    stereo ste      stereo         2+stereo
Bluetooth         yes                       yes             yes            yes
XLRgain /sensitiv gain pots                 49dB            gain pots      -40dBu
Jackgain /sensiti gain pots                 42dB            gain pots      -20dBu
EQ                Bass, Treble,+8-band Mast 2 bands         3 bands        -
TiltedPosition    Yes                       Yes               ?            With gigbag
Polemount         Yes                       Yes int         No             Yes
Woofer            8"                        6.5"            6.5" paper     -
Tweeter           1"                        -               1" soft dome   3" silk neoD
Midrangespeakers  -                         3x2.25"         -              4x4"
Batteryvoltage    14.8v                     25v             12v            12v
Batterytechnology Li-ion                    Li-ion          Lead acid      Li-ion
ACpowersupply     standard IEC              standard IEC    12VDC external 12V DC ext.
Bandwidth         37.5 Hz-20kHz             70Hz-16kHz      80Hz -20kHz    70Hz -20kHz 
DI out            Jack                      jack            XLR            jack
FX                yes                       yes             yes            yes
Master volume     yes                       -               yes            yes
Anti feedback     no but 8-band Master EQ   -               -              yes
Sub out           No                        -               -              yes
Phantom power     yes                       No              No             yes
Extra             USB ports+Headph.

The only question left is:
"Is the JBL eon one compact less loud when performing on batteries?"

... Which basically can be translated to: Is there a step-converter to enable higher voltage like the boost output of the Bose battery to let the JBL work at full-power when battery operated?

AeroUSA: We need a Bose S1 pro vs JBL eon one compact video!!

For those who like unboxing videos:
Unboxing link

[necrome]

Thanks Cuki for the great list of specs for comparable products!

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by necrome

The form factor is the same but it doesn't have the articulated "mini-array" in front of the woofer. Think it'll sound less good over long distances? Seems like just a basic 8" woofer PA with a barebones digital mixer

I don't think Bose S1 pro qualifies as a line-array. 3 speakers are not enough. So you will get a widerspread because of the angle but not a better depth penetration than other speakers.

On the other hand, a tweeter will give a stronger high end.

It really depends on taste

[necrome]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

I don't think Bose S1 pro qualifies as a line-array. 3 speakers are not enough. So you will get a widerspread because of the angle but not a better depth penetration than other speakers.

On the other hand, a tweeter will give a stronger high end.

It really depends on taste

Definitely, I'm still looking for something to replace the Laney AH4x4 though, it's been great no doubt but I could do with more headroom while sounding nice and I'm not sure if this is the product to do so... The digital mixer is refreshing, since the S1 Pro's main weakness is the lack of EQ knobs.

[martingitdave]

On paper, this product would be a better fit for me. I have the new JBL Eon Pro and the Bose S1. I guess JBL listens to the online feedback. While there is some feature expansion, the form factor is nearly identical to the Bose. Being a JBL product, my question/concern would be channel gain. I personally think the 8” driver is important.

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by martingitdave

On paper, this product would be a better fit for me. I have the new JBL Eon Pro and the Bose S1. I guess JBL listens to the online feedback. While there is some feature expansion, the form factor is nearly identical to the Bose. Being a JBL product, my question/concern would be channel gain. I personally think the 8” driver is important.

Also right now, there is no way to identify a Bose S1 pro unit that has the draining battery desease...

Bose S1 pro draining when not in use thread

I almost pulled the trigger for a S1 but this problem annoyed me too much. In Europe, the BOSE customer support might not be as reactive as in the US.

I don't say JBL is more reliable. Everyone remembers the first JBL eon one units heating problem.

[Cuki79]

From all the claims in the website, one I like most is:

Two pro-grade preamps deliver fuller, richer sound from any microphone

https://www.jblpro.com/Microsite-eononecompact/

Most portable speakers don't dare to claim that...

Also it seems bigger than the Bose S1: More air mass means more low end. Good sign for supporting the 37.5Hz low end limit claim

[Justinian]

I cannot find wattage for EON ONE Compact?