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Old 04-11-2019, 10:09 AM
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Little update pics of the box being half closed :


Yummmmm.

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Old 04-11-2019, 12:14 PM
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Looking good!

Kind of a shame to have all that hidden inside....so clean.

It could just be the angle, but I'm not seeing the fan on the fretboard. Is it just my eyes or did you change your mind?
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:29 AM
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Looking good!

It could just be the angle, but I'm not seeing the fan on the fretboard. Is it just my eyes or did you change your mind?
It is absolutely Fanned and I believe very visible on the picture. I didn't change my mind. It will still be 635 - 660mm
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If it is notched and capped with an ebony cap on each joint, then this bracing does not appear to be floating any more? It nay then share greater affinity with Michael bashkin's x braced back that also uses wood veneer caps or greenfield's halo braced backs?

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Hey Steve to make it clearer here is a picture showing what Joel does in the process (although it's not on my guitar)



Joel notches both pieces, rather than relying solely on a glue joint to hold the structure. This way he gets mechanical stoppage. This is different than he believes how Jeff does it.

At the start Joel reached out to Jeff that gave him his full permission to use the idea.

In the end Joel wanted to make it his own anyway and came up with a new take that he believes would be superior to his needs.


Hope that clarifies it
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If it is notched and capped with an ebony cap on each joint, then this bracing does not appear to be floating any more? It nay then share greater affinity with Michael bashkin's x braced back that also uses wood veneer caps or greenfield's halo braced backs?
The main back brace (over the joint of the back) is still floating as it doesn't touch the back directly, but only through all the other braces. The ebony, or in my case rocklite cap on top is just to secure the whole thing mecanically and add strength.
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What is rocklite? Pardon my ignorance...

Mighty pretty work and I always love the amount of individual Luthier innovations that seem to appear over some careers!

Thanks again for sharing!

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Rocklite intrigues me as it looks great and is a sustainable alternative.

I'm considering it for a future build for both the binding and the fretboard. I see now that they produce a rosewood variety as well as their ebony one.

From their website: "Rocklite is a man made product, engineered entirely from real, sustainable wood.it is NOT vulcanised paper! Rocklite is designed to replicate exactly the beautiful exotic hardwoods, whose very existence is now so endangered by excessive and in some cases illegal logging. Thereby offering a sustainable and Eco friendly alternative to the relentless march of the logging companies, further into the rain forests of the world."
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Rocklite intrigues me as it looks great and is a sustainable alternative.

I'm considering it for a future build for both the binding and the fretboard. I see now that they produce a rosewood variety as well as their ebony one.
On my Michaud build, we went with a Rocklite/Ebony replacement for the Binding, Rosette, Brace Caps, Fretboard & Bridge. In our case, we wanted as solid black of a colour as we could get, which is one of the features of the Rocklite material. For me I could not feel any difference though I am not particular about the fretboard material on my guitars, other than the look.

Here is my build thread which has some info/pictures on the rocklite material -

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=465540
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Purfling work in the making ! Then will come the binding which will be Rocklite. Very precise work from Joel, as usual !



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Quick and small update :

Headstock inlay :





Endgraft








More to come soon !
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Little update.

The body is finished now, time to work on the neck.

Since I'm going to use quite a lot of various and wide open tunings on this guitar (which is also why I decided to go for a fanfret), I asked Joel to make a really stiff neck so that the variation in the strings' tension don't make the neck move too much. I'd rather not have to touch the neck and adjust it each time I change from a tuning to another.

Joel make his own carbon fiber rods that he inserts in his neck. It's very light and super stiff which is great !

Only problem is that he ended up with a hidden knot in the Mahogany block of the neck. This was not possible to detect prior to shaping the neck. Joel wants all of his guitars to be right and perfect so, he'll start again and make a new one, saving both the fretboard and headplates in the process.






Slot for the carbon rod :


Carbon rod inserted :




Gluing it all together


Bad luck with this hidden Knot :
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The guitar's looking great. Too bad about that knot - with the CF reinforcement that Joel does, there's a fair bit of engineering in the neck blank prior to the fretboard/head veneers going on, but at least he'll be able to save the fretboard and head veneers.
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Looking good...

As for the bridge material, What is bois du rose? My knowledge from French class seems to translate it simply to rosewood. Correct?

If so good! RW are more resonant and will do a good job transferring energy down!
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Looking good...

As for the bridge material, What is bois du rose? My knowledge from French class seems to translate it simply to rosewood. Correct?

If so good! RW are more resonant and will do a good job transferring energy down!
Well, I've been discussing with Joel a bit about it, and he's going to go for a Rocklite bridge. All the guitars he's done with Rocklite as a bridge have pleased him very much. It's also going to match the Rocklite Fretboard and binding better than if it was bois de rose.

I trust his guts on this...

So unless he changes his mind about it, rocklite it will be !
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Bad break but Joel is doing the right thing. Lookin schweeet!
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