Your Video Performance Has Dropped, Surprise!

[Mr. Jelly]

I am wondering how you would emotionally react to someone posting videos on the internet of you playing a live performance.

I was informed last night that the open mic that I perform at is posting videos of myself and others performing. I was well aware of the video system, and I was given lessons on how to operate it as were others. They were sketchy about what and how they were going to go about using the videos. In discussions it was mainly about the pros who perform there, and nothing was said about us regular folk. I didn't think it would be of any interest to anyone. And probably isn't really. At this point I'm not sure if I'll watch it or not. Like it or not this is part of our world today.

Your thoughts.

[srick]

I think that’s a compliment! If it was not a good performance, it would never have been posted. Congratulations!

[BoxCar_Joe]

It happened to me and I was not pleased.

A relative of a band mate posted it. Not because it was good (it wasn't) but because she takes pictures of her frappacino and posts that also.

At least ask. I would have reluctantly agreed I suppose.

[buddyhu]

At wouldn’t land well with me initially: this is the kind of thing where I think the performer would ideally be asked to give consent before they record anything. But after I think about it, I can appreciate why they might not tell everyone that they are planning to record performances, as that would increase stage fright for some.

Once they have crossed that boundary (and I get used to the intrusion), I’d go watch the video, and if it was up to my standards, I’d let it stay, and maybe send a link to a few folks (I’ll call them “fans”, even though that’s a bit of a stretch). If I didn’t like the video, I’d ask them to take it down, and if they did so, I’d feel fine.

[leew3]

I wouldn't be a fan of this practice. Speaking strictly for me, I'd likely ask that this not be done with my portion of the evening. If each performer is asked to start the video recording for themselves, I suspect I'd make a mistake with that step every time!

[Tahitijack]

If you're at an open mic and someone decides to capture your performance there is nothing you can do. Public place no expectation of right to privacy.

[Dotneck]

Originally Posted by Tahitijack

If you're at an open mic and someone decides to capture your performance there is nothing you can do. Public place no expectation of right to privacy.

I’d bet a donut most open mics are not in a public place.

[KevWind]

Couple thoughts :: for me it not so much about infringing on my rights or something ,,,, as it is the quality of the audio on the video .

If it is the venue itself that is videoing and posting and the audio quality is decent I do not think I would mind per. se. even if I did not find out untill after the fact .

If it just someone out in the audience using their iPhone and not asking me I would care ...because seems to me those smartphone from the audience videos always sound pretty awful ...And my ego might object

I guess one reason the venue (at an open )mic might choose to not pre inform the performers , is ()as someone noted) it could cause some to bungle just from nerves of knowing ??
And I also suppose that logistically the venue might not know how to contact the performers pre publishing ??

At the only Open Mic I attend if the venue, or the folks actually putting on the open mic, are going to video they inform you before hand, and ask if it is OK ..

[Mandobart]

First off - I don't expect privacy in any public place. I was at a Seahawks game a few weeks back and found several friends captured (and posted) a crowd shot close-up of me off their TV screens. Didn't bother me, but I'm not terribly photogenic.

I used to attend open mics (and hosted a few, too). I got tired of them before the pandemic shutdown. One of my friends had started up an open mic at a local ciderhouse. She kept asking me to come so I did. Then I saw a video of me playing there on Facebook. Shot on her cellphone, from the back of the room, with background noise of glasses clinking, people talking, laughing, etc. Not good quality audio or video.

I don't need or appreciate that kind of "exposure" - I never went back. Now if someone captures decent quality audio or video of a performance that faithfully reproduces what we sound and look like there's nothing for me to complain about.

[1neeto]

Originally Posted by Dotneck

I’d bet a donut most open mics are not in a public place.

Private place open to the public. Same difference. Ultimately it’s depending on your individual state’s wiretapping laws. For example, in Hawaii, there’s a single party consent law. Meaning only one person has to consent as long as that person is engaging in the recording. A person cheering and videotaping an open mic is not violating any wiretapping laws in Hawaii. Some states (California for example) need two party consent. So if you live in California, and someone records you without your consent, then that person is breaking the law.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by Mandobart

First off - I don't expect privacy in any public place. I was at a Seahawks game a few weeks back and found several friends captured (and posted) a crowd shot close-up of me off their TV screens. Didn't bother me, but I'm not terribly photogenic.

I used to attend open mics (and hosted a few, too). I got tired of them before the pandemic shutdown. One of my friends had started up an open mic at a local ciderhouse. She kept asking me to come so I did. Then I saw a video of me playing there on Facebook. Shot on her cellphone, from the back of the room, with background noise of glasses clinking, people talking, laughing, etc. Not good quality audio or video.

I don't need or appreciate that kind of "exposure" - I never went back. Now if someone captures decent quality audio or video of a performance that faithfully reproduces what we sound and look like there's nothing for me to complain about.

Yes as I noted, pretty much the way I feel .. And will add while I think both the audio and video need to be up to snuff.
But to my way of thinking it is the audio that is the most important factor. While cell phones can capture decent video, many now being 4K. But none have the built in audio recording capability to be able to record audio that is "up to snuff" and to my mind those cell phone only audio -- From the audience type videos actually to disservice to the performers.

Here is my one example of what is basically and open mic situation,, where the video and especially the audio are "up to snuff" IMO

[frankmcr]

Originally Posted by KevWind

That is nice!

[Chipotle]

I have a friend who goes out to see local live music all the time, and regularly streams some live on FB or posts videos. In 2023, I figure if you play anywhere people are watching, you shouldn't be surprised if a video shows up on line somewhere. Whether or not it's legal--or if you want to go through the trouble to take that recourse--it's going to happen. The quality might not be what you want, but if you trust your performance is good, so be it.

Back to the legality, even places where both parties need consent, that is sometimes conditional as well. I just googled my state's law, and found this:

"In Colorado, privacy laws prohibit anyone from visually recording another without consent in situations where the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. (See §18-7-801, C.R.S.)"

I don't think I can claim a "reasonable expectation of privacy" playing in a venue open to the public where anyone can come in and watch.

[Murphy Slaw]

Originally Posted by Chipotle

I don't think I can claim a "reasonable expectation of privacy" playing in a venue open to the public where anyone can come in and watch.

Exactly.

I've been recorded in many forms for many decades. It's been "normal" for many, many years.

I would be surprised if I did a performance that WASN'T recorded, to be honest.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by frankmcr

That is nice!

Thanks it was a lot of fun and a very enjoyable evening with about 400 in attendance