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People, people, that was great. As I mentioned earlier, it's still bizarre with the house lights turned up bright. Jimi was really on that night. |
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Jeff Beck, Clapton, Page, Stevie Ray were better technically and some would add Van Halen but the Hendrix flash made his playing fun and certainly distinct except when he played blues. Even though he did a great job with blues, if that was all he had played we wouldnt be talking about him now. So many other great blues players.
I think he was trying to create a niche for himself in a time that was right for him. He couldnt have done the same thing now and been accepted as anything but a show off with tricks. On the other hand other people say it was the drugs that created the style, hmm. I dont know about that one but I do know Ive enjoyed his playing and song writing for many long years where I havent with other players of the time. Its a taste thing I guess, like preferring one guitar over another. I prefer the Stratocaster to the Telecaster or a Les Paul. All are great guitars but I have a long standing love of Strats. |
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AND, he was an insanely tasteful R&B guitarist who could play rhythms as funky as anyone who ever came along. Just like Van Halen's rhythm chops got lost in all of his fancy lead playing, so did Jimi's - the guy was one of the funkiest, freest rhythm players ever. How much you like him is about taste. But acknowledging his vast influence isn't - it's fact. My taste is such that I loved Hendrix and never cared much for Van Halen, but both of them were enormously influential on a generation of electric players - they just WERE whether you liked them or not. Kind of like Keith Richards when it came to his type of rhythm and coming up with catchy and rocking riffs. -Ray
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What I was trying to say Ill try in a different way. Any top bluegrass guitar player is a better player than Jimi but I just dont like bluegrass to listen to. He certainly was unique when he played his flamboyant songs but Im not seeing how he changed electric guitar playing idea you suggested. The only people that play like Jimi are the copyists. He is a blip in history as far as I can see. Before you flame me remember Im a long time fan and Foxy is still my favorite with Mary next I think.
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You're not getting that much pushback on an ACOUSTIC Guitar Forum, but take this discussion to an electric guitar based forum and I think you'd be crying uncle by now... -Ray
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Voodoo Chile! And his name is spelled Jimi.
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Name a top bluegrass guitar player who plays electric guitar...
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Stating an opinion is not trolling. I really appreciate what Rahsachs had to say. That shows a broad understanding of electric guitar playing. He probably is correct, its just that I was stating my opinion which may be entirely wrong. Im hoping that we can get more analysis similar to what Ray had to say.
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He was flamboyant, but I like to skip over that, as he did later as well. Early on, when I hear Frank Marino or Robin Trower, I hear his influence. Frank, who I like, but in an odd way, I think said he inherited Jimi's spirit. Robin was slower and more tasteful, Bridge of Sighs: Later on there are lots of guitarists, from Prince to John Frusciante. Here is under the Bridge: As for technique and sound, he: - made the 7#9 chord (aka the Hendrix chord) a staple in music, like in Purple Haze, Foxy Lady, Midnight - gave feedback a new horizon - made the whammy bar do stuff never done before, but often done after - used effects in new ways - used stereo to accentuate his playing - had a freedom in playing His influence is like the Beatles. It's here, there and everywhere. But not always obvious. |
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Cant deny the influence of those songs but those songs were not typical of those groups sounds were they? My OP was what songs do you like best and why Id like to get back to rather than debate his influence on subsequent music.
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On “topic” I really like his clean organ trio picking in Rainy Day, Dream Away, and how he fades out with the wah that reappears in Still Raining Still Dreaming. The conversation he has with his wah on Belly Button Window sounds like front porch pickin on Venus. |
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I wouldn’t go anywhere near a discussion of relative talents, but Jimi’s All Along the Watchtower is my favorite. Electric Ladyland is my favorite album. Tons of Hendrix favorites. I have plenty of favorite musicians and favorite music, but It has always been Dylan, Hendrix, Coltrane and Monk, and then all my other favorites.
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Id go along with Sayhajeff, Jimi is my favorite guitar player. My saying he was a blip wasnt meant to marginalize him. It was to point out that he was unique, unlike any guitar player Ive heard. No doubt many of you guys know more than I do but Ive been playing and listening to guitar, not singing for im an instrumentalist, for 60 years. I would agree that he was a genius but not that he was the best guitarist before or after him.
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I agree. Jimi owns that song.
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