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Thoughts and opinions on Stevie Ray Vaughan
Disclaimer: I am in no saying that SRV "did it wrong", or "it would have been better if". I am looking for ideas and impressions on the why.
So, I was working on "Pride and Joy" wanting to adapt it to acoustic slide. But first I wanted to learn it "properly" on electric. Maybe not front to back but one time through the intro verse and chorus without the variations. In just the first 15 bars, there are at least 3 places where he makes choices that are completely "counter intuitive" to not only what I would do, but also what my ear wants to hear. Buddy Guy is an obvious influence, and listening more to him than Stevie in my life may explain what I hear as being out of place. And not just melody and chords. There's a rhythm change from triplets to sixteenths that I've had to practice pulling off a few times because it is pretty foreign to me where it sits. So. Did he get there by playing it 10,000 times? Did he get there because his influences are more texas based? All of the above and more? If you can think of influences that do it the way he did, I would love those. Same thing with Eddie Van Hallen if you've ever played his stuff. Some of his "boxes" in solos are completely counter intuitive to the "blues rock" based music that inspired him. That's what makes him so hard to study and learn if you don't have experience with it. Just thinking about this because to "play it like him" takes more attention than I anticipated while Guys like Buddy Guy, Muddy, Burnside, etc. don't.
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Timing
It's been said that Jimi had impeccable timing. Thus he could hit a clinker and because it was exactly in time it never sounded out of place. Another aspect of what you are coming to understand is is that as long as you hit the root note on the first note of chord changes the lead lines sound correct. Though the notes leading up to the chords root note may not be in a scale that you understand. Not playing lead lines up to speed can make lead in notes and coloring notes sound really bad. Just a couple of thoughts.
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Also much to contemplate in the sentence "Though the notes leading up to the chords root note may not be in a scale that you understand." Thanks for your response. You perfectly understood what I was asking despite my less than focused question.
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He was influenced by his brother, Johnny Winter, and Jimi Hendrix if that means anything.
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This doesn’t answer any questions...but SRV was I thought most influenced by Albert King!🤔
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BTW, please don’t take this as me slamming Jimmy Vaughan in any way. I love his playing. It was sure fun to see that dude get his comeuppance though. |
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If you doubt that Jimmie Vaughan was a blues player: And if you want to hear him really DRIVE the band with his combined rhythm/lead playing: -Ray
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Not sure why this guy (Jimmie D. Lane) came up. Sounds like he’s doing his best to sound like SRV.
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I don't think he's changed the song because he's played it 10,000 times, but he wrote it that way because he's played 10,000 blues tunes before he wrote that one. Stevie's great, and very talented, but I've never really dug his sound. Is it the Dumble amps? I don't know, but he always sounds tubby and flabby to me, unlike the crystalline sound of Hendrix. |
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"It's just honest human stuff that hadn't been near a dang metronome in its life" - Benmont Tench Last edited by raysachs; 07-05-2020 at 12:37 AM. |
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If he was getting impatient, he might have said it that way to get rid of the guy. In that sense, it could have been a figure of speech.
I always liked SRV because his guitar sounded like a guitar, which wasn’t all that common in the 1980s.
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