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How about if I just put a zero fret in where the first fret is? Do I need to move the bridge? No. How about if I put a capo on at the first fret and tune down a half step. Do I need to move the bridge? No. Either of those examples is the same as what I'm talking about. It will not be a "real short scale". It will be approx. 24.25 inches and a 13 fret neck (like I said in my previous reply). Shortening the neck by one fret and maintaining the existing 25.5" scale would mean moving the bridge. Ed |
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Have either of you contacted the people who built your guitars? I made a bigger neck for a client who bought a spec guitar from me, and then decided the neck was too skinny. I've never had a client want a shorter scale though. Going from a 25.5" scale to a 24.07" scale (what Ed422 is talking about doing) will make a significant drop in string tension. I haven't done the math,(maybe Ed has) but I believe it would take a pretty big increase in string guage to get the tension back close to orginal. I base my top thickness, and bracing on the desired string tension. Less tension wouldn't drive the top the way it needs to be driven to sound good. OTOH some builders probably don't brace each individual guitar based on string tension, and desired tone like I do. Lowering string tension probably wouldn't matter as much then. Saddle compensation would be slightly different for the shorter scale, but could probably be corrected with a new saddle, and possibly wider slot.
Anyway, I'd recommend contacting your builders. If one of my clients wanted a new neck, I'd do whatever I could to help them out, or explain to them why it won't work.
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As far as string tension... the guitar I have played the most for the past 7 or 8 years has been a Larrivee Parlor. It has a 24" scale. Between that and the 12 fret neck, it works best egonomically for my aging (and apparently shrinking) body. Some time ago while figuring out strings for it (and being truthful, I'm enough of a geek (ex-engineer) to think it's interesting), I ran a bunch of numbers through a couple of the online string tension calculators. It works out that for every brand I tried, and sticking with the same material, lights on a 25.5" scale is nearly the same tension as mediums on a 24" scale. I finally settled on (Pearse ph. bronze) bluegrass gauge for my parlor. Ed Last edited by Ed422; 02-20-2010 at 03:54 PM. |
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Just a FWIW, I have coresponded with Chris at Hanalei Moon. He understood exactly what I want. I haven't placed the order yet but as soon as I iron out the details, I'm pretty sure I'm going to go for it.
Ed |