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Old 09-26-2023, 01:29 PM
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After owing this wonderful guitar for two or so years, I just noticed an asymmetry in the bout depths, and wonder if this is what a Manzer Wedge might be.

FB says their bout depth is 4.25" - with no distinction between the upper and lower. My guitar has an upper bout of 3 3/4" at its narrowest (by the neck),
3 7/8" maximally in the middle, and a lower bout depth of 4 1/4", maximally. Thus a 1/2" differential. I purchased the guitar used, and do not recall any mention of this asymmetry.

I surely am not complaining. This H12 is probably the easiest guitar to play that I own. Is this asymmetry typical of FB's, or is mine a unicorn?

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Old 09-26-2023, 01:52 PM
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That sounds like a normal taper as you would find on most acoustics... most have a consistent depth from the tail block to the waist or thereabouts, and then tapers to the neck block.

A "wedge" (Manzer or otherwise) would involve the the bass side being shallower than the treble side:

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Old 09-26-2023, 01:59 PM
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After owing this wonderful guitar for two or so years, I just noticed an asymmetry in the bout depths, and wonder if this is what a Manzer Wedge might be.

FB says their bout depth is 4.25" - with no distinction between the upper and lower. My guitar has an upper bout of 3 3/4" at its narrowest (by the neck),
3 7/8" maximally in the middle, and a lower bout depth of 4 1/4", maximally. Thus a 1/2" differential. I purchased the guitar used, and do not recall any mention of this asymmetry.

I surely am not complaining. This H12 is probably the easiest guitar to play that I own. Is this asymmetry typical of FB's, or is mine a unicorn?

Thanks,
David
David… just measured my 2019 H12. 3 3/4” at the neck, close to 4 1/8” in the middle and a strong 4 1/4 at the lower bout. Andy sent me the original specs with no mention of asymmetry in them.
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I no longer own an H12, but my C, M and K all measure:
3-5/8 4-1/8 4-1/4

Manzer is tapered as Warfrat shows above. My Sexauer is tapered 3/8” like that.
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Old 09-26-2023, 02:27 PM
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As others have said, that’s completely normal. It would be abnormal for a guitar to have a flat back (i.e., the same depth at the neck block and the tail block. Check your other guitars (I assume you still have the Spohn and perhaps some others).
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Old 09-27-2023, 06:48 AM
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Thanks all, and to Warfrat73 for that image of the Manzer Wedge very helpful.
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Old 09-27-2023, 08:51 AM
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Yes, it is totally abnormal. In fact, it may infect your other guitars. Send it to me and I will dispose of it for you...

You can thank me later.
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