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Old 09-22-2023, 10:54 AM
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Even though you can't use the tax credit for EVs on a hybrid (maybe a plug in hybrid might qualify), the regular hybrid will still save you money in the long run. We have a Hyundai Tucson hybrid and get between 38 and 41 mpg on a regular basis, driving a lot of highway miles every other week. If I'm just driving locally without highway miles, I regularly get 40+ mpg. What a difference between this car and our previous one (ICE) that only gave us 28 mpg at its very best.
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Old 09-25-2023, 02:40 PM
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Wife has a 2017 Buick(chinese) Envision Premium 2T Nice car only one problem ..battery went bad Nice and fast also

I've got a 2022 Hyundai Santa Cruz SE probably my last new purchase
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:32 PM
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I've owned far fewer cars during my 77 year lifetime than most folks. The biggest reason is I had higher priorities (family) for my money than cars (although I do consider myself a "car guy").

But when I do buy a car I usually buy something high end that I really like and then drive it for 15 to 20 years. I rarely log less than 150,000 to 200,000 miles before selling. I live in California, so things like rust are a total non-issue.
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Rust?
I live in Ohio Ölots of salt on the roads in winter and the only vehicles I see with rust on them are at least 30 years old and there arenít many of those left.
Rust hasnít been an issue with cars for quite a while.
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:59 PM
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Rust?
I live in Ohio Ölots of salt on the roads in winter and the only vehicles I see with rust on them are at least 30 years old and there arenít many of those left.
Rust hasnít been an issue with cars for quite a while.
Well,I live in Ohio and see lots of rust.especially underneath the vehicles.brake lines,exaust.And well under 20 years?
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Old 09-25-2023, 06:26 PM
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Agree. Northern Indiana and they put salt down way too often. I see rust on cars that are only a couple years old. It usually starts at the pinch areas of the door skins, hood, trunk, tailgates. These areas are often overlooked when washing but can trap the salt/ water mixture and then the rust starts leaching out under the finish.
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Old 09-29-2023, 05:28 AM
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Well,I live in Ohio and see lots of rust.especially underneath the vehicles.brake lines,exaust.And well under 20 years?
I guess Iím blind.
I donít see any of that on cars built since 2000,
Öwell maybe GM stuff.
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