Two loose bridges in a few days?

jrodriguezcros · #1 07-20-2019, 11:00 AM

A few days ago I posted a thread about a guitar with a loose bridge.Well today I found another one, a Seagull S6. I realized there is a gap behind the bridge and if you put a piece of paper it gets up to the pins. So I have some work to do.
Is this random? We've had a heat wave here recently with temperatures of almost 40°C, and both guitars were out of the case for days. Not exposed to direct sunlight and not left in an attic or similar, but I wonder if global warming is starting to be a problem for guitars here in Spain.
Do you think it's possible that the glue has softened in hot days? Should I use another kind of glue more heat resistant?

Howard Klepper · #2 07-20-2019, 12:56 PM

It can't be global warming, since that is a Chinese hoax. This was proved by bringing a snowball to the floor of the US Senate. For that scientific achievement, the Senator who brought it was made head of the Committee on Environment. You might not know these things in Spain.

mirwa · #3 07-20-2019, 09:49 PM

40c is not an issue, that is a common temperature in summer here in Australia.

You just happened to notice it now, i find most times loose bridges occur from people over humidifying their guitars, that is, people put humidity packs into their guitar not knowing if it needs it or not.

Steve

jrodriguezcros · #4 07-21-2019, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard Klepper

It can't be global warming, since that is a Chinese hoax. This was proved by bringing a snowball to the floor of the US Senate. For that scientific achievement, the Senator who brought it was made head of the Committee on Environment. You might not know these things in Spain.

I know we have a few of those over here as well, unfortunately.

jrodriguezcros · #5 07-21-2019, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mirwa

40c is not an issue, that is a common temperature in summer here in Australia.

You just happened to notice it now, i find most times loose bridges occur from people over humidifying their guitars, that is, people put humidity packs into their guitar not knowing if it needs it or not.

Steve

Thanks Steve. Yes I guess I just noticed now.
I don't humidify guitars, here we have 70-80 % humidity many days. Actually I wonder if that could be related to the problem with bridges.

Mr. Jelly · #6 07-21-2019, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard Klepper

It can't be global warming, since that is a Chinese hoax. This was proved by bringing a snowball to the floor of the US Senate. For that scientific achievement, the Senator who brought it was made head of the Committee on Environment. You might not know these things in Spain.

But now his wife has started a charity to combat attacks by vicious baby seals that are overrunning the coast. It's reported to be a Japanese ran conspiracy that's being investigated by his brother in law. He's got a minor in Egyptian history.

redir · #7 07-22-2019, 08:34 AM

40deg C? Good God I guess I better stop complaining about the heat here in Virginia. It hit 32 yesterday and I was melting. I do wish the Chinese would stop with this practical joke, it's getting kind of old.

PonchoFrancisco · #8 07-24-2019, 09:48 AM

It's not just temperature, humidity is a major factor. Many years ago I moved from the Northeast to the Western Plains to work as a carpenter. The guys I worked with gave me a hard time about not being use to temperature extremes like they they have out there. During the summer, it got up to 38C and the odd day 40C, but the humidity was really low. They were surprised when I handled it quite well. That was easier than the Northeast when it was 30C and 95% humidity. Same in the winter. Working outside at -40 C (same -40F) isn't bad when you dress for it. Try -25C and high humidity. No matter how you dress, that damp cold will get through everything and chill you to the bone. And sometimes it's not just the heat or the cold, it's the stupidity.

Edgar Poe · #9 07-24-2019, 09:57 AM

All talk about humidity and environmental conditions aside. I would like to know what gauge strings are recommended for the guitars in question, and what gauge are you actually using.

Ed

jrodriguezcros · #10 07-24-2019, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PonchoFrancisco

It's not just temperature, humidity is a major factor. Many years ago I moved from the Northeast to the Western Plains to work as a carpenter. The guys I worked with gave me a hard time about not being use to temperature extremes like they they have out there. During the summer, it got up to 38C and the odd day 40C, but the humidity was really low. They were surprised when I handled it quite well. That was easier than the Northeast when it was 30C and 95% humidity. Same in the winter. Working outside at -40 C (same -40F) isn't bad when you dress for it. Try -25C and high humidity. No matter how you dress, that damp cold will get through everything and chill you to the bone. And sometimes it's not just the heat or the cold, it's the stupidity.

Totally agree. And we have high humidity here as well, so sometimes it's unbearable.

jrodriguezcros · #11 07-24-2019, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Edgar Poe

All talk about humidity and environmental conditions aside. I would like to know what gauge strings are recommended for the guitars in question, and what gauge are you actually using.

Ed

One is a 1971 Martin 000-18 using 0.012 strings, which should be no problem.
The other is a Seagull S6 using 0.013 lately. Don't know what the maker recommends, but seeing how the guitar is made (bracing etc) it shouldn't be any problem (IMO).