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Old 05-31-2002, 07:41 PM
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ok...this C triad (xxx988) could go to F smoothly as

xxx565 or xxx 10 10 8

yup....

or that same C triad could go to G smmmmmmmoothly as

xxx 12 12 10 or xxx787

yup yup yup....fill the pot right up.....
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:47 PM
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last one daddy...

ok....

xxx 12 13 12 (which is another C triad) could go to F smoothly as

xxx 14 13 13 or xxx 10 10 8

yup yup....

but could also go to G smoothly as

xxx 16 15 15 or xxx 12 12 10

yup yup.....

and I'm suspecting we can find smooth F to G's and G to F's.....

yup.....
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Old 05-31-2002, 08:04 PM
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ok, daddy....I see what you're saying about the gnomes...this is a ridiculous approach....there's too many choices.....these triad shapes are just going to become 'some other chords I know' and not help me change my playing level at all...temporarily give me some voice leading and not much else really......

yup....

finite...

yup....

not what we're looking for...

nope...
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Old 06-02-2002, 04:26 AM
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Smile zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

shhhhhhhhhh.....daddy's sleeping

for completeness' sake.....we'll type these triads out for the string set 5-4-3 (note that you should get the same 'shapes' on string set 6-5-4 as 5-4-3....and we already did string sets 4-3-2 and 3-2-1 earlier in the thread)

ugh...daughtering duty calls......
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Old 06-02-2002, 05:35 AM
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no, the apple does not fall far from the tree....

you learn something old everyday...

on string set 5-4-3

C major triad could be played as

x 15 14 12 xx or drop that an octave to

x320xx that's CEG

then we find the inversions of C major up the neck...

x755xx that's EGC

and

x 10 10 9 xx that's GCE

then we find the smmmmmmmmooooooth connections to the IV and V triads (F and G)

Walter Cronkite!
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Old 06-02-2002, 05:42 AM
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smmmmoooooth connections...'up' and 'down'

x 15 14 12 xx that's C

could connect to F smoothly as

x 12 10 10 xx ...note you can't do that down an octave on the same string set...we run out of fretboard

I wrote that, too?

note that C as x 15 14 12 xx could connect smoothly to F as

x 15 15 14 xx and we could do that down an octave as

C as x320xx to

F as x332xx

on to C to G smoothly....
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Old 06-02-2002, 05:46 AM
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C as x320xx could go to G smoothly as

x200xx (up an octave that's x 14 12 12 xx)

....

but C as x320xx could also go up to G smoothly as

x554xx (that's G)

ugh...gotta run...

paper boy messin' with the gnomes..

bonk him with a rock I will......

apples....

fig newtons...
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Old 06-02-2002, 07:24 PM
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again...just for completeness' sake...finish plopping these out...

daddy, you're right...got onions burned on the bottom of the pot...our tomatos and carrots have disintegrated, potatos are mush, the chicken tastes like Goodyear made it, I can't see the brocc and cauli, the cabbage is limp....not a good way to learn the fretboard at all...


invert the C major triad that was x320xx up to

x755xx and look for the smooth connections down and up to F and G
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Old 06-02-2002, 07:32 PM
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C as x755xx can go down to

F as x332xx smmoothly

but that C could also go up to F smmoothly

as x875xx


that C could also go down to G smoothly as

x554xx

but that same C could also go up to G smoothly as

x 10 9 7xx

one more inversion of C to check (do)....
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Old 06-02-2002, 07:44 PM
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that brings us up to this one daddy...

C as x 10 10 9 xx

whatd'yu do there daddy.....?

just bent this x 10 10 7xx to sound like

this x 10 10 9xx....just bent the 3rd string a whole step to get the triad shape...you can do that type of stuff with the others, too, bend, hammer on, pull off, 2nds and 3rds, 5ths and 6ths.....

ugh, can't do it....can't get that bend..

here....try it with this guitar....

whoa....whendidjya get this?.....Momma know you got this?
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Old 06-02-2002, 07:55 PM
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ok now....

C as x 10 10 9xx could go up to F smmooothly

as x 12 10 10 xx

but the same C triad could go down to F smoothly as

x875xx



the same C triad could go up to G smoothly as

x 14 12 12 xx

or down to G smoothly as

x 10 9 7 xx

onions have a lot of sugar and people turn it into a problem?

people are odd....
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Old 06-02-2002, 08:28 PM
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daddy, how the h e double puck sticks do you get from

the inversions of F or G with their 3rds in the bass to that version of C major as 5th, root, and 2nd bent to 3rd so quickly????

translation for any reading audience

F as x 12 10 10 to C as

x 10 10 7 xx with the 3rd string bent to get

C as x 10 10 9 xx

you can refigure out the G....


Ans: Basic music reading. Actually I should say basic music reading done well.

Are you talking sight-reading and academic text type reading like they do at fancy music schools in Boston?

no. basic music reading....you will play like you practice....doesn't matter what the material is....what a freebie....notice daddy didn't say you will play what you practice....
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Old 06-07-2002, 07:20 PM
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daddy, would you get your toad-butt over here, please? I am TRYING to learn to play the guitar......What the heck is Mary yelling about?.....and why do you have fiddly-bits of ham and turkey in your hair?

I've figured out I could

strum
or
use thumb and two fingers
or
use a combination of flatpick along with middle and ring finger (hybrid picking)....

wait a second, daddy, I forgot where we were...gotta read the thread again...
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Old 06-08-2002, 05:25 AM
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getting back to that basic strumming pattern daddy..

I could do a percussive whack (w) or a muted strum (m) on

beat 2 of the first measure

beat 4 of the first measure

beat 2 of the 2nd measure

and

beat 4 of the 2nd measure...

yup yup yup that would add some hop...Hop on Pop

ok, ok, ok and we could change the pattern again by adding strums on C in the first measure on the and of 2 and beat 3...

sure, you can change it any way you want...

use the concept of rhythmic relatives to change any of the 8th note strums to 16th note value figures?

of course...

ok, back to the triads....

(are you typing those out Ndaboonies?)
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Old 06-08-2002, 05:35 AM
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ok, ok, so to add a 2nd guitar part that 'moves'and starts covering the neck I might do this...just following the rhythm of the other guitar essentially...could play with it or as counter to it as I want I suppose...

but anyways...

could play thumb and two finger triads as...

C as xxx 12 13 12 on the & of 4 to start

whack on beat 2

xxx 12 xx on the & of 2 (let ring)

xxx (12) 13 12 on beat 3

G as xxx 12 12 10 on the & of 3

whack on beat 4

F as xxx 10 10 8 on the & of 4 (let ring)

whack on beat 2 of the 2nd measure

F as xxx5xx on the & of 2 (let ring)

F as xxx(5)65 on beat 3

G as xxx433 on the & of beat 3

whack on beat 4

and start the two-measure pattern again....

that'd be cool.....
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