ToneDexter Thread (continuation of original thread) - Page 18

cfibanez · #**256** 06-07-2018, 07:45 AM

Would it make sense to plug an electric guitar to a trained ToneDexter to get a different tone?

Petty1818 · #**257** 06-07-2018, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cfibanez

Would it make sense to plug an electric guitar to a trained ToneDexter to get a different tone?

I did this yesterday. I wasn't planning on it, just had the electric beside me so figured it would be fun. The tone change was very small. It still sounded like my strat but maybe with a bit of different eq.

phcorrigan · #**258** 12-15-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by open-road-matt

Has anyone found a little soft case or padded bag to protect the ToneDexter while traveling?
Matt

Not a soft case, but I bought this at Harbor Freight: https://www.harborfreight.com/2800-w...-in-63926.html

They often go on sale for about $20. The downside is the internal foam is made up of 1/2" square blocks that easily come apart. I will be replacing the foam eventually.

The Kid! · #**259** 12-16-2018, 01:19 AM

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Ken,
I'm excited to hear what you think of the ToneDexter.

I retrained my Trance Audio Amulet guitar this morning and I think I got better results.

I need to see if a local studio would let me rent something like an SM81.

I'd like to hear the training results with a quality small diaphragm condenser mic vs my SM57.

Someone needs to start a mic rental business for everyone buying ToneDexters! We'd pay a fee to rent the mic for a short period of time, train our ToneDexter and then ship the mic(s) to the next paying customer!

If we didn't live in such a frozen wasteland I'd set up my PA outside today to really test out my Dexterized tone!

Matt

Ha! I traded some session work for a chance to raid the mic locker at a really nice studio here. The Neumann KM185 was really nice as was the Shure SM81. I used an AKG and a Telefunken as well, but liked the Neumann best.

The engineer was really impressed with the Tonedexter once he got his head wrapped around what it actually does. He had set up the mics for the session right after we programmed some wave maps and looked at me funny when I said we didn't need the mics!

guitaniac · #**260** 12-16-2018, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cfibanez

Would it make sense to plug an electric guitar to a trained ToneDexter to get a different tone?

I've Dexterized the Fender Strat of one of the players who I run sound for, using a WaveMap trained with one of my acoustics. In that particular case, we both think that TD adds a nice touch. On the other hand, I avoid using TD with acoustics which haven't been used to create a WaveMap for that particular guitar. I've experimented enough with that kind of "mixing and matching" to know that the chances of compatibility are low.

The Kid! · #**261** 12-17-2018, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by open-road-matt

We've maybe gone off on a tangent here.

There have been many times where I have walked onto a stage, been handed a 1/4" cable and plugged in my guitar and started playing. There have also been times where I have been asked to please just use the DI that's already on stage.

Matt

The most intrinsic part of any negotiation is the first acceptance. Discuss your stage needs with the venue and preferably with the sound engineer before committing to the gig. Always be kind and courteous, but advocate for what you'll need. Offer to come in early if need be and be easy to work with.

A lot of engineers get rattled because they don't know your plan until you arrive. Tell them what you need as far as hookups, square footage needed for your stage footprint, AC power, etc. when you book it. I've never had a problem doing things this way.

Venues are more than happy to put you in touch with their sound person because the guys booking the place and pouring the drinks have no idea what goes into the sound reinforcement. Be clear up front and things should run smoothly.

If they hand you a 1/4" cable plug it into the 1/4" output of the Tonedexter and run it through their DI. Have another 1/4" with you for guitar to the Tonedexter. Some cats have actually worked out battery power for their TD in certain situations.

phcorrigan · #**262** 12-17-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Kid!

Some cats have actually worked out battery power for their TD in certain situations.

I have done this, and it works well. This is what I use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I still carry the AC power supply just in case.

gfirob · #**263** 12-17-2018, 05:35 PM

How much run time do you get on a charge on this battery pack?

phcorrigan · #**264** 12-17-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gfirob

How much run time do you get on a charge on this battery pack?

I don't know. I've done a bunch of 3-song open mics and used less than a third of the charge.

James May · #**265** 12-17-2018, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gfirob

How much run time do you get on a charge on this battery pack?

Based on specs, I'd expect at least 6 hours play time. But it would be nice to know for sure. Perhaps we'll get one and try it.

gfirob · #**266** 12-17-2018, 09:19 PM

Seems pretty cheap to get away from the power supply and AC cable, if the Tonedexter is all you have working from it.

phcorrigan · #**267** 12-18-2018, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by James May

Based on specs, I'd expect at least 6 hours play time. But it would be nice to know for sure. Perhaps we'll get one and try it.

That sounds about right.

dcopper · #**268** 12-20-2018, 02:10 PM

I have an older Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable battery power supply that works great with the TD. It would last for at least 4-6 hours.
There are many rechargeable power supplies out there that would work just as well.
Davidc

raduray · #**269** 02-10-2019, 06:59 PM

I'm a finger picker and have a question about the ToneDexter and the Taylor ES2 on my 812CE 12 Fret. One of the things I don't like about the ES2 is how it accentuates the finger noise on the strings, from slides on the fretting hands and from that brushing noise on the picking fingers. Will the ToneDexter address this?

BTW, totally different topic, but I think guitar stores can make some money by providing the learning service for those customers that don't have the resources to do, either equipment or willingness. It would also provide an environment for demo'ing the system.

phcorrigan · #**270** 02-10-2019, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by raduray

BTW, totally different topic, but I think guitar stores can make some money by providing the learning service for those customers that don't have the resources to do, either equipment or willingness. It would also provide an environment for demo'ing the system.

I agree. That and mic rentals at a reduced rate if you bought your ToneDexter from that store.