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I have the T1 and really enjoy the ability to pull up different scenes. For example, a Crowdster scene or my Martin OMC Aura scene, etc. That is a handy-dandy lil' feature, to be sure.
I also love having the T1 mounted at my fingertips on the mic stand. Very handy. |
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I have to admit...on the whole, I think all the talk about Bose is a lot of shallow hype. I've NEVER liked their consumer audio stuff and hate how they think you don't need tone controls on their little 'wave radios'...assuming that every CD you put in there is 'created equal' is both arrogant and naive. Just don't get me started on their consumer crap.
HOWEVER... With that in mind, I played through my friends PAS one night, and the rest is now history. I used to own what many consider to be THE cadillac of all acoustic systems (2 Daedalus S2 cabinets powered by a Hafler P3000 with a Pendulum preamp and Lexicon reverb). I sold the Daedalus cabs immediately (and those cabs are FANTASTIC!!!). I've now been playing out with my Model I for about 3 years now and love it...granted I still use my Pendulum and Lexicon through my Bose...nothing quite like those two units. Then when I need more ins, I bring my little Mackie and run everything through it and then into the Bose with a single line. FYI...one of my favorite series I've played is run by the Tidewater Friends of Folk Music (TFFM.org) and they use 2 Bose Model I towers for their 'house' system. The performances are held in a 200 capacity amphitheater and they run the house board outs (right and left) into the 2 towers for stereo sound. No monitors...just the two towers. I played the Birchmere the night before with their huge sound system (which was very good), but I absolutely LOVED the sound I got from the stereo towers. Amazing stuff! Bose has made a believer out of me...at least for this product. I still think the bulk of their other stuff is crap...Sshhhh :-)
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I use a Classic L1 for solo / duet / and band.
We are still working thru the band thing. We have a Classic L1, the drummer and bass player have 4 B1's with Packlite amps..my drummer also hooks up a pair of EAW 18's and QSC EX4000. Low end is no longer a issue. For the solo / duet, can't beat it. Steve |
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As to Daedalus speakers having a 20% sweet spot, that is objectively and factually untrue. Daedalus has done comprehensive tests of all of its speakers regarding dispersion at over 100 different frequency points. The all have excellent to superior dispersion specs, at least according to scientific evidence, with the SC1203 having the best specs (due in part to offset tweeters). Not everyone is enamored with the Bose L1 sound. The digital artifacts, harsh high frequencies, artificial, strained and anemic mids and dijointed bass, all add up to a strained listening experience. Last edited by sdelsolray; 03-26-2008 at 03:01 PM. |
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Again, comparing the Daedalus to Bose is not fair. They're apples and oranges. One is true audiophile and one is pseudo audiophile. But I made the choice for great sound for everyone...not the best sound for a few (in my case :-) It's sort of like when people chide me for playing with Elixirs on my guitars. I know that un-coated strings sound better than coated...that's a no-brainer. But when you have my hands and play your guitar for less than 1 hour and the sound of un-coated strings lose their tone so badly that they're now 10 times more dull than a 1 week old set of Elixirs...you make a choice. I choose Elixirs because I get great tone (not the 'best' tone) for weeks of play...rather than 30 minutes of gorgeous and then have to suffer through muddy crap or change strings every other hour. Such is my fate. :-)
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I haven't tried my SPS-1 and TC Elctroncis M2000 (effects unit) through a Bose L1. I would certainly suspect that the resulting sound and behavior would improve, perhaps significantly. If you have found a great sound using your SPS-1 and Lexicon with the L1 then it's often best to leave well enough alone. But I can say that the Daedalus PA models are quite different from a pair of Daedalus S82. BTW, Daedalus upgraded both the 2-way and 3-way inductive crossovers in their speakers a few years ago, and upgraded the 5" mid speaker. I had my S81's upgraded and the difference was pleasing, although a bit subtle. The difference between the older PA models and the newer ones is a bit more present and noticable, although I've only compared W803's in this regard. |
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You just need to spring for the deluxe bags for the M1. They have wheels and straps so that the tower cases will strap to the base case and you can roll everything into the club in one trip.
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I had the deluxe bag. The model II base is much easier to transport and fit in a trunk. Certainly not worth the upgrade for that alone, however. It is a nice compact system.
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"Not everyone is enamored with the Bose L1 sound. The digital artifacts, harsh high frequencies, artificial, strained and anemic mids and dijointed bass, all add up to a strained listening experience."
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I don't know where you live. Lou moved to the Seattle area several years ago and he is currently moving Daedalus here to Portland, OR. If you're in the neighborhood, give a shout. Back to the L1 topic, I am curious. How would you compare a straight L1 with the L1 with the SPS-1 and Lexicon on the front end? What would you describe as the difference in sound, behavior and performance? |
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I don't mean to hijack the thread and I'm not going to give up my L1 but is the above a popular combination of components?
I'm always curious about unfamiliar gear and it's interesting that you and Wandering Man had almost the same set up and I think he referred to it as the "Cadillac of Sound Systems." Just curious. The Daedalus speakers are beautiful. I'd be afraid to take them out of the house! :-) Matt |
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The particular components in my signal chain are all fairly well known in the acoustic guitar world and have been around for quite some time. For example, the Pendulum SPS-1 was introduced as a two channel successor to an earlier Pendulum model in 1993 and is simply the finest acoustic guitar preamp/eq/mix bus/chief bottle washer there is, bar none. TC Electronics is a large European company well known for high quality gear, both for gigging and the studio, and has in more recent years released budget and prosumer products that are quite nice for the price. Hafler goes back decades, mostly known for high quality to audiophile level power amps for home, studio or live use. Unfortuantely, they closed their doors a year or two ago. Daedalus is perhaps the least known, as it started in the early '90's making only speakers for acoustic music. Daedalus has since branched into audiophile markets, for home, live and studio. As to popularity, I don't know how many folks that have a "Pendulum/Daedalus" rig (a shorthand term used to describe a signal chain that has at least those two components). A few thousand SPS-1's are out there. Same for Daedalus. TC Electronics and Hafler products are no doubt in the tens to hundreds of thousands. I can tell you that such a rig is expensive, with street prices (new) running from approximately $4k to $12k. It's certainly a situation where you get what you pay for - total uncompromised audiophile sound and complete user controlled functionality. And I would agree with an earlier poster that it's really not appropriate or fair to compare such a rig to a Bose L1, which costs much less (with associated compromises), has a very different design philosophy (Bose knows what's best) and whose functions are implemented in a very different way (less user control). Basically, my rig is just another mini-PA, taking about 15 minutes to set up: Last edited by sdelsolray; 03-26-2008 at 08:51 PM. |