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Old 04-05-2016, 02:19 PM
Henning Henning is offline
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Default Restore a Yamaha classic CG170SA

Hello, my classical Yamaha guitar has a problem at the bridge.
There´s a bulge below and "dent" above it.

I try to straighten it with humidity. But does anybody know what a suitable level of humidity for this process might be?

How high humidity is acceptable?

I keep a sponge with distilled water inside the guitar and a cover of the sound hole.

I´ve inspected the bracing inside and as far as I can see there´s nothing wrong with it.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbfsq7msx3...ridge.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jer3ivnbr...0side.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yd8yv37rv2...reble.jpg?dl=0

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Old 04-07-2016, 10:26 AM
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Default Some difficulties

Could anybody please help me out on this?

It doesn´t seem to be so easy to solve this matter.
Where I live the humidity has been between 30 - 40 % during winter.
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:40 PM
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Offhand, it looks fine to me. I suspect you don't need to do anything. Guitars sometimes do show that kind of top deformation - some more than others - without serious long term issues.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:24 AM
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Offhand, it looks fine to me. I suspect you don't need to do anything. Guitars sometimes do show that kind of top deformation - some more than others - without serious long term issues.
Thanks for your response. So you´d say there is really no reason for me to see the bridge acting like a fulcrum by the pressure of the strings, (and by torque) twisting itself inwards towards the soundhole?

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Old 04-08-2016, 06:21 AM
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If the action and intonation are ok then you are fine, nothing looks really wrong with that guitar based on those images. If the bridge has rotated so far forward that your intonation is off then you have problems. But guitars folding up and trying to destroy themselves over time is simply what they do. Builders who like to build very light and on the responsive end of design even like to see a little bit of bridge rotation.
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:15 AM
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Thanks for your responses. Seems as though I´ve been worrying unnecessarily. I´ve somewhat straightened the adjustable bone piece in the bridge and changed it from the original plastics to a piece of elk bone I found in the forrest.
That made a big difference in improvement of the sound.

I think the guitar is sturdily built and there are no problems with the action nor the intonation, thanks.

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Old 04-11-2016, 06:39 AM
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Wow, elk bone from the forest, that has nice ring to it. I'd love to see some pics of that as well.
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Old 04-12-2016, 03:16 AM
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Wow, elk bone from the forest, that has nice ring to it. I'd love to see some pics of that as well.
Actually, the photos of the bridge in the posting #1 shows the elk bone installed. But I can tell it is somewhat harder to form then what you can buy in the stores that they call boneplastic. The smell however, while shaping it is at least of the same strength.

Here a some photos of the pieces of bone I used.

1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/h5dgyjem6m...I1028.JPG?dl=0
2 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ryhfo9zuw0...I1029.JPG?dl=0

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