Groove tube 57 large diaphram for classical guitar - Page 2

Guitarist-1977 · #16 09-18-2023, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TBman

I don't know. The AT-2035 are good mics I think, but my solution to getting "better" recordings was to throw more money at it. (I'm still thinking about getting a pair of sE8 SDC mics,

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Along the way I started using a Zoom F3 instead of a H5 and had changed my recording area in my house, to the nice quiet basement, and bought more room treatment panels. I'm not sure if I had to get "better" mics. I do know that I have bought more mics than I can use, but experimentation is the basis of experience so...

I've also found that a pair of less expensive dynamic mics gives me a clean tone as well so there's that.

I am ready ready to buy a better F series recorder now honestly. I used mine for like 10-15 hours or less. The dynamic mics are a bit muddy without much details. So I want to stick to condenser, and since I have 2 SDC already I am considering buying LDC. so you are saying the AT 2035 are better than groove tubes and better than AKG P420?

TBman · #17 09-18-2023, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarist-1977

I am ready ready to buy a better F series recorder now honestly. I used mine for like 10-15 hours or less. The dynamic mics are a bit muddy without much details. So I want to stick to condenser, and since I have 2 SDC already I am considering buying LDC. so you are saying the AT 2035 are better than groove tubes and better than AKG P420?

I'm saying I don't know. I do know that poor playing or a bad room doesn't sound better with more expensive mics. That's what I have learned. Not that this applies to you.

The pros here will give you better specific info regarding mic costs vs quality and recording improvements.

Guitarist-1977 · #18 09-19-2023, 06:23 PM

I just got 2 AT2035 and placing them on the mic bar like 8" apart sounds too boxy (wish I can post a photo). I hope it is s set up issue and not malfunction as I got them used ��

The other stupid question I have - the word Audio Technica is facing me. Is that the right orientation? Or should flip them 180 degrees?

Any placement tips and ideas are welcome.

Thx

jim1960 · #19 09-19-2023, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitarist-1977

I just got 2 AT2035 and placing them on the mic bar like 8" apart sounds too boxy (wish I can post a photo). I hope it is s set up issue and not malfunction as I got them used ��

The other stupid question I have - the word Audio Technica is facing me. Is that the right orientation? Or should flip them 180 degrees?

Any placement tips and ideas are welcome.

Thx

The switches are on the back. As for how to record, the stickied thread has a video section on how to record guitar.

Guitarist-1977 · #20 09-19-2023, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jim1960

The switches are on the back. As for how to record, the stickied thread has a video section on how to record guitar.

Thx for the super quick response. What switches sorry?I was asking should the word audio technica be facing me? Or should I be facing The model number at2035? It is my first LDC so bear with my silly questions

DupleMeter · #21 09-19-2023, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitarist-1977

I just got 2 AT2035 and placing them on the mic bar like 8" apart sounds too boxy (wish I can post a photo). I hope it is s set up issue and not malfunction as I got them used ��

The other stupid question I have - the word Audio Technica is facing me. Is that the right orientation? Or should flip them 180 degrees?

Any placement tips and ideas are welcome.

Thx

Yes, the logo faces the source. That’s the front of the mic.

As far as placement, stay tuned. There’s about to be an article about acoustic guitar mic techniques on a certain popular Production site. [emoji2958]

Guitarist-1977 · #22 09-19-2023, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DupleMeter

Yes, the logo faces the source. That’s the front of the mic.

As far as placement, stay tuned. There’s about to be an article about acoustic guitar mic techniques on a certain popular Production site. [emoji2958]

thanks i tried to space them and have them like 10" apart (instead of the SDC at the edges of the bar) and they sound better. Still my ear is not used to them yet

They sound a bit boxy compared to the SDC.

But i guess my plan to have all 4 mics on a single 10.5" bar (like SDC at the edges and LDCs like 8" apart) is NOT gonna fly. Options:
A. Get another mic bar with a separate stand OR
B. Get a splitter or another small bar (as a splitter) to have one bar for the SDCs and another for the LDCs like b2b. Space is limited in my bedroom, so trying to avoid option A.

TBman · #23 09-19-2023, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitarist-1977

They sound a bit boxy compared to the SDC.

Don't point them at the sound hole. The boxy/muddy sound could be proximity effect too. To avoid that I would have them pointing outward from each other if on a bar, but never crisscross their line of sight.

When I used them as a spaced pair they were on separate mic stands and at least the length of the guitar apart and pointing straight ahead.

jim1960 · #24 09-19-2023, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitarist-1977

Thx for the super quick response. What switches sorry?I was asking should the word audio technica be facing me? Or should I be facing The model number at2035? It is my first LDC so bear with my silly questions

The mic says "Audio Technica" on both sides according to the photos online. The back side of the mic has two switches along the bottom. But this is probably better with photos, so here's the back and front...

This is the front:

This is the back with the low cut and pad switches along the bottom:

Guitarist-1977 · #25 09-19-2023, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TBman

Don't point them at the sound hole. The boxy/muddy sound could be proximity effect too. To avoid that I would have them pointing outward from each other if on a bar, but never crisscross their line of sight.

When I used them as a spaced pair they were on separate mic stands and at least the length of the guitar apart and pointing straight ahead.

The length of the guitar apart? Oh boy that is too wide. Wish I can share my set up. How do you post/embed pics here?

TBman · #26 09-19-2023, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitarist-1977

The length of the guitar apart? Oh boy that is too wide. Wish I can share my set up. How do you post/embed pics here?

I'm pretty sure you have to be a charter member to post pictures.

Before you dismiss the wider mic set up (with the LDC), try it.

Guitarist-1977 · #27 09-19-2023, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TBman

I'm pretty sure you have to be a charter member to post pictures.

Before you dismiss the wider mic set up (with the LDC), try it.

No dismissing it, I dont have that much room in my bedroom. I wish I had 😀

Chipotle · #28 09-19-2023, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TBman

I'm pretty sure you have to be a charter member to post pictures.

You have to be a charter member to upload directly. But if you can upload your pics to another website (imgur is a free one lots of people use), you can use the URL of the picture to put it into a post.

Guitarist-1977 · #29 09-20-2023, 07:07 AM

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You have to be a charter member to upload directly. But if you can upload your pics to another website (imgur is a free one lots of people use), you can use the URL of the picture to put it into a post.

Thenk you. So this is my set up. I have to push SDCs to the center to have 2 LDCs at the edges. Fyi I uploaded an image via url but cannot see it.

Rudy4 · #30 09-20-2023, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarist-1977

Thenk you. So this is my set up. I have to push SDCs to the center to have 2 LDCs at the edges. Fyi I uploaded an image via url but cannot see it.

Copy the url of the image, use the little "Insert Image" icon above the reply text box, paste in your URL, and click "OK".